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Windows 8 uncertainty blamed for decline in PC sales

  1. #91


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    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    But I simply cannot ignore the fact that tablets and portable devices are selling like crazy, while pc's/laptops are in a serious slump.
    PC's and laptops are in a serious slump BECAUSE tablets and portables are selling like crazy. How can you call it a slump anyways? PC's and laptops were selling like crazy when there were no other device options, for many people tablets are filling in where they would normally of bought a new PC. Don't buy into what these so called "experts" say, it's a market shift, plain and simple.

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  2. #92


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    Quote Originally Posted by R0bR View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    I'm not quite sure what makes 'touch' such a great deal in laptops and desktops, especially desktops. Touch is fine for simple activities, but try and do anything much more complex than typing a simple paragraph, for example (emphasis for the usual culprits), and the entire concept falls apart (unless you are into txt speak for example).
    So who says that just because a laptop or desktop has a touch screen that you ONLY have to use touch? When you went from DOS to Windows did you abandon the keyboard and only use the mouse?
    Yeah no kidding, I use the virtual keyboard on my phone and I don't txt speak. I hate txt for the most part.
    It is a very childish and lazy way of texting. So no, even on a virtual keyboard, it is not difficult to write an essay.
    If it is for you, I suggest getting an external keyboard.

    try and do anything much more complex than typing a simple paragraph, for example (emphasis for the usual culprits)
    Oh, sorry, that's right, that's lame and we should all just give up on the whole endeavor, it's useless and pointless and because one person can't do it, or doesn't like it, it's the end of it for everyone.
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  3. #93


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    Quote Originally Posted by R0bR View Post
    So who says that just because a laptop or desktop has a touch screen that you ONLY have to use touch? When you went from DOS to Windows did you abandon the keyboard and only use the mouse?
    That's exactly what I'm saying; whereas, some seem to think touch is now the in thing and keyboards and mice are so yesterday.
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  4. #94


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by R0bR View Post
    So who says that just because a laptop or desktop has a touch screen that you ONLY have to use touch? When you went from DOS to Windows did you abandon the keyboard and only use the mouse?
    That's exactly what I'm saying; whereas, some seem to think touch is now the in thing and keyboards and mice are so yesterday.
    That is not entirely true.
    There are a lot of people who expect new tablets to come with these thing, like the transformers and convertibles.
    Where the excitement is, is the ability to leave that behind and actually do actual work in the most confined spaces, unlike how you would work with a laptop. The ability to grab your desktop and all your software and go.

    Is a touch Keyboard the best device? Not for everyone, or all the time, no. But you have the ability to use either when needed.
    Some people can be very proficient on a touch virtual keyboard.
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  5. #95


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tepid View Post
    That is not entirely true.
    There are a lot of people who expect new tablets to come with these thing, like the transformers and convertibles.
    Where the excitement is, is the ability to leave that behind and actually do actual work in the most confined spaces, unlike how you would work with a laptop. The ability to grab your desktop and all your software and go.

    Is a touch Keyboard the best device? Not for everyone, or all the time, no. But you have the ability to use either when needed.
    Some people can be very proficient on a touch virtual keyboard.
    You are agreeing with what I said. It's a feature that has uses, but it is not a replacement for a keyboard and/or mouse. Why is it that because I say it, it's taken to mean that I'm knocking the feature?
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  6. #96


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    Touch is fine for simple activities, but try and do anything much more complex than typing a simple paragraph, for example (emphasis for the usual culprits), and the entire concept falls apart (unless you are into txt speak for example).
    ummm.....

    No I was not agreeing with you. There are alternatives and you do not have to use it.
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  7. #97


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tepid View Post
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    No I was not agreeing with you. There are alternatives and you do not have to use it.
    I know that you are not ideologically agreeing with me (heaven forbid), but technically you are agreeing with me, as I'm suggesting the very same thing that you are suggesting. An overly strong emphasis on touch capability can over-sell that feature, when in reality it is an adjunct that works very well in some situations, but not in all.
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  8. #98


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    I think it's kind of stupid when recently, some CEO's of said OEM's are saying Windows 8 demand wasn't where they thought it would be initially. I have to say, REALLY? Three years ago when Windows 7 came out, PC sales were pretty good because of the situation at the time, after vista, people from xp were looking to upgrade since Windows 7 was worth it over vista. PEOPLE DON'T BUY PCs EVERY THREE YEARS. It's not too difficult to understand. Windows sales will be usually good, but not PCs. I'd rather see OEMs cut down on how much stock they produce, and focus on developing on and perfecting really good quality, well built PCs.
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  9. #99


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    This is all a bunch of nonsense! This will be Microsoft's SECOND attempt in the handheld space, with the Windows CE (Compact Edition) being their first and it was a huge failure. Don't believe me? Ask Ray8 he took that plunge according to the O/Ses he has listed. Hey Ray8? How did that palmtop revolution work out for you over the desktop/laptop eh? Now Microsoft waited and watched the iPad space, sure there has been some notoriety there, BUT there was a ton of notoriety for the palm pilot as well. *cough* *cough* where is the development of that at these day? Don't be fooled again, the tablet/iPad are just gimmicks, and like with the palm pilot and it's ilk died out.
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  10. #100


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    I just want to say I've been able to help drive installations to Windows 8, and forced multi purchases. I myself bought two laptops cheap off ebay and plan to wipe those clean to Windows 8 after checking the processors online to see if they support NX bit and SSE 1,2 along with PAE. I am very happy with Windows 8 and Office 2013.

    I will add I did get the 14.99 32bit upgrade offer, and even though it allowed the /sources setup to run, it didn't load the OS after restart on a multi-boot,showing "Windows Setup" , Windows 8 , and Windows 7 Enterprise. I couldn't get that to load, so for now I am stuck with a cheap Windows 8 Key to use for testing. I have run into another issue i will work on through cmd line and the consumer preview to test the legacy hardware. If anyone knows the SMEP bypass so I can make my 32bit Windows 8 Pro work, please send me a pm.


    Again, the OS is amazing. All this hatred is wild to me..It's on it way to stardom just with the new features it's bringing..Visual Studio 2012 here I come!
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