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Microsoft says Google trying to undermine Windows Phone

  1. #31


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    Quote Originally Posted by labeeman View Post

    Google says it will no longer block Windows Phone users from accessing Google Maps, and that the blockage was about ensuring a good user experience, not about intentionally interfering with a rival product.
    I call full out 100% and total stank ridden moldy Dog Crap.

    Let's repeat what google had to really say....

    "Just last month we learned from YouTube that senior executives at Google told them not to enable a first-class YouTube experience on Windows Phones,"

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  2. #32


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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    They're not asking the court to force google to develop for Microsoft. They're saying that they are being locked out from using google's services on a specific platform competitor. It's just like Tepid said, if Microsoft blocked out SkyDrive or Outlook.com on google chrome, the VERY SAME situation would be occurring.

    Whether this is definitive anti-trust violations on google's behalf is let for debate, as they merely got a slap on the wrist from after an anti-trust probe by the FTC.
    but you can watch YouTube on any browser on any platform inc. MS phone, right? there is no need to develop an app. when I open a YouTube video on my android phone it asks me if I want to watch it on the YouTube app, or on the regular browser... and both give me the same result. Assuming the MS browser works too, I don't see the big deal not having a specific app. YouTube wasn't intended to be an app application, it is a cloud-service supposed to work in any browser, which it does. Unless I'm mistaken and Google somehow manage to disable YouTube videos on regular browsers on MS platforms.

    and MS effectively locked everyone out for years when websites were developed following web standards and those couldn't be opened in IE. OR when they ram IE down everyone's throat and those IE-specific websites only could be opened in IE. Payback is a bitch.....

    I don't hear MS complaining that 90% of the OS are windows and they don't allow a Linux software to run on windows.
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  3. #33


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    Quote Originally Posted by HerrKaLeun View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    They're not asking the court to force google to develop for Microsoft. They're saying that they are being locked out from using google's services on a specific platform competitor. It's just like Tepid said, if Microsoft blocked out SkyDrive or Outlook.com on google chrome, the VERY SAME situation would be occurring.

    Whether this is definitive anti-trust violations on google's behalf is let for debate, as they merely got a slap on the wrist from after an anti-trust probe by the FTC.
    but you can watch YouTube on any browser on any platform inc. MS phone, right? there is no need to develop an app. when I open a YouTube video on my android phone it asks me if I want to watch it on the YouTube app, or on the regular browser... and both give me the same result. Assuming the MS browser works too, I don't see the big deal not having a specific app. YouTube wasn't intended to be an app application, it is a cloud-service supposed to work in any browser, which it does. Unless I'm mistaken and Google somehow manage to disable YouTube videos on regular browsers on MS platforms.

    and MS effectively locked everyone out for years when websites were developed following web standards and those couldn't be opened in IE. OR when they ram IE down everyone's throat and those IE-specific websites only could be opened in IE. Payback is a bitch.....

    I don't hear MS complaining that 90% of the OS are windows and they don't allow a Linux software to run on windows.
    Again, this the WHOLE point about mobile apps, yeah you can use the mobile site. If people did, app stores across several platforms would see a huge loss in downloads and people would go back to the days where they pinned internet shortcuts onto their home screens. But, are the mobile sites the best user experience out there? Not always. Metrotube on Windows Phone BLOWS THE WATER out of the pond when it comes to the user experience of YouTube content. There are reasons why to have the apps for certain sites, like this one.

    The issue here doesn't pertain to android, no one cares. The issue here is that google allows the YouTube API for use on android apps, as well as ios apps. Following this logic, google should had also cut off ios seeing as how android has a larger marketshare than ios and it's used more than ios. But they didn't, they specifically chose not to allow simple ACCESS to YouTube APIs. No one is wanting them to develop for Windows Phone, as seeing how shoddy and inefficient android is coded.

    And no, Microsoft doesn't complain about Linux software. Why? It's not a popular, globally used resource and no one cares about it. Even then, some of the open sourced software can make its way onto Windows if the developer so feels.
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  4. #34


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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    And no, Microsoft doesn't complain about Linux software. Why? It's not a popular, globally used resource and no one cares about it. Even then, some of the open sourced software can make its way onto Windows if the developer so feels.
    Linux does run pretty much 98% of the world servers though. Also Microsoft is one of the biggest contributors to the Linux kernel.
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  5. #35


    Coke,

    Your lack of understanding that Linux software is globally used is hilarious. Tons of mail servers run sendmail, zillions of dns servers run BIND, and the majority of web servers are running Apache. And I haven't even mentioned all of the database servers running mysql.

    On the desktop, Linux has never excelled, but in the server room,.it's quietly running a ton of the backend infrastructure.
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  6. #36


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    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    Coke,

    Your lack of understanding that Linux software is globally used is hilarious. Tons of mail servers run sendmail, zillions of dns servers run BIND, and the majority of web servers are running Apache. And I haven't even mentioned all of the database servers running mysql.

    On the desktop, Linux has never excelled, but in the server room,.it's quietly running a ton of the backend infrastructure.
    Tell me, what operating system(s) is/are used overwhelmingly by everyone else that isn't managing websites, email servers, or databases? Yeah, it's not Linux. This is what I'm speaking about, I'm not discussing Linux in the server realm as that has little relevance here.
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  7. #37


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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    Coke,

    Your lack of understanding that Linux software is globally used is hilarious. Tons of mail servers run sendmail, zillions of dns servers run BIND, and the majority of web servers are running Apache. And I haven't even mentioned all of the database servers running mysql.

    On the desktop, Linux has never excelled, but in the server room,.it's quietly running a ton of the backend infrastructure.
    Tell me, what operating system(s) is/are used overwhelmingly by everyone else that isn't managing websites, email servers, or databases? Yeah, it's not Linux. This is what I'm speaking about, I'm not discussing Linux in the server realm as that has little relevance here.
    Little relevance?
    But your user/cloud devices would not even exist without Linux...
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  8. #38


    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    Coke,

    Your lack of understanding that Linux software is globally used is hilarious. Tons of mail servers run sendmail, zillions of dns servers run BIND, and the majority of web servers are running Apache. And I haven't even mentioned all of the database servers running mysql.

    On the desktop, Linux has never excelled, but in the server room,.it's quietly running a ton of the backend infrastructure.
    Tell me, what operating system(s) is/are used overwhelmingly by everyone else that isn't managing websites, email servers, or databases? Yeah, it's not Linux. This is what I'm speaking about, I'm not discussing Linux in the server realm as that has little relevance here.
    Try Android.
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  9. #39


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    Holy crap.

    By relevance, I'm talking about open sourced Linux software being coded for Windows; which depends on the developer. And no, it's not used largely enough other than android, which is a variant of Linux as well as ios and mac os. But the overwhelming majority of desktops and laptops are not running Linux, therefore it's not very relevant in that space other than mobile and server platforms.

    Talk about getting off topic... Linux fanboys on the attack!
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  10. #40


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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Talk about getting off topic... Linux fanboys on the attack!

    Where? I don't see ANY.
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