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Windows 8's uptake falls behind Vista's pace

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    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Then there's, "Why can't a print from my ipad?! Why can't I plug in video camera to my ipad?! Why can't I plug in my iphone into my ipad?!"

    Non-technical reasons get technical, REAL fast.
    Valid questions. However, it's not a question I have been asked or heard complaints about on Facebook. I cannot print from my smartphone, tablet or Chromebook and that doesn't bother me at all. If I have to print, I can always grab a laptop and do so.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tepid View Post
    So,, no one, I do mean no one, who sits down with their Android or Ipad next to this and watches it work, isn't going to be awed by what they see? You watch and see, the future of REAL Tablet computing is close. And many are going to be disappointed they wasted their money.

    You can argue till you are blue in the face, but you have already stated that YOU are not interested in owning a tablet. Those who are interested and bought an iPad or Android won't be so happy they did.
    I actually own a tablet. It's an Asus Transformer that's about 14 months old now. Spent about $375 back in the day on it. It's gotten a fair amount of use, mostly from my kids watching YouTube and Netflix videos. I use it to read my email and to rent Redbox movies. And now it's used as a remote for my new Home Theater receiver. I'm perfectly content with my purchase.
    Having a PC to do something simple like printing is the WHOLE point of having a Windows 8 tablet. A tablet based off a smartphone OS is limited to that device's capabilities to keep the apps and UX similar, which makes an artificial notion of an "ecosystem." Things that are simple on a PC become a whole expensive backdoor method, it's also one of Microsoft's belief in keeping two devices: a smartphone (Windows Phone) and a PC (ideally tablet in this scenario). It's REAL pointless to keep two devices around, do a lot of internet browsing and content viewing on the tablet, and do some light work on the PC. It's a separation of what a PC has done before. Before, it was about just Office software, then came the internet and the PC did work and internet. Then comes along gaming, and huge media storage. Essentially, up until the ipad, the PC was doing work, gaming, internet viewing, printing, sending content to other devices, and being a staple in a home theater setup. Basically, it was doing all the above. Then comes the ipad and phablets, everything other than printing and Office software and maybe storing media is what the traditional PC has come to. This is the idea and one of many reasons for Windows 8. It takes the current hardware of laptop PCs (which are hugely in use) and takes the internet browsing and the light gaming of phablets back into the PC but improved. If the PC once did and does everything, why is it that a different device taking away from that and why is it trying to put things that a PC would do into those devices? Too many devices, to do only a few tasks, when a tablet PC with Windows 8 can literally do all the above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tepid View Post
    This is a misnomer, People have no clue cause they have not truly been introduced to a Tablet that can do everything their PC's can do and more. Tablets have been out of range of the mainstream due mostly to cost and they have been targeted to the business world, not the consumer. That all is about to change.
    I've shown my Windows 8 tablet to a number of my friends, who have Android and Apple tablets, and all but one (who specifically wanted to be able to run Windows programs) have all been completely underwhelmed by the experience. The vast majority of people who use tablets don't want anything more than what current tablets provide.

    I bought mine for business use and so that I had full compatibility with all my other Windows devices, the number of people who want that are in the clearly in minority. Oh, and those with the Android tablets have no trouble printing, wirelessly connecting to their Windows PCs etc, they can do everything they want.
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  3. #83


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    well, I think my points all along have been well made when it comes to people who really do want a tablet they can actually use as a laptop/tablet. But again, you are using it as a toy cause you have no need to use it for any kind of productivity.

    These then are not for you. But I think you yourself have made that perfectly clear as well. So, there is no point in posting much further on this matter. We have both beaten the horse dead on both sides.

    You are pointing out what people have been trending too, I am trying to point out that people have no clue at this time and they will be trending the other way.

    And as for the
    "No it's all about "convenience" of hand helds!"
    I disagree completely. But we are not talking about small handhelds either. we are talking about the Laptop Replacement. These Convertibles will be laptop replacements.

    But,,, I repeat myself again.,...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tepid View Post
    This is a misnomer, People have no clue cause they have not truly been introduced to a Tablet that can do everything their PC's can do and more. Tablets have been out of range of the mainstream due mostly to cost and they have been targeted to the business world, not the consumer. That all is about to change.
    I've shown my Windows 8 tablet to a number of my friends, who have Android and Apple tablets, and all but one (who specifically wanted to be able to run Windows programs) have all been completely underwhelmed by the experience. The vast majority of people who use tablets don't want anything more than what current tablets provide.

    I bought mine for business use and so that I had full compatibility with all my other Windows devices, the number of people who want that are in the clearly in minority. Oh, and those with the Android tablets have no trouble printing, wirelessly connecting to their Windows PCs etc, they can do everything they want.
    I will repeat myself one last time,, and I think my points will be proven correct later this year...
    The largest majority of the mainstream consumers have not been properly shown the power of a full Tablet Experience.
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    Time will tell and will be interesting to see if things take off. I'm obviously very skeptical and I think many are just losing the need fir full blown pc functionality..and I think this is where the toy tablets for nicely. For the price it seems they do what many want and leave some wanting much more.

    I'll stop being the dead horse.
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    What's going to be really funny is when Apple releases an iPad that runs OSX, I can't imagine it will be too far off, and all the media is going be WOW'd by it because it's Apple. With Mountain Lion they've integrated Facebook and Twitter, there's also an App store to access from OSX, wonder where they got all these ideas from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R0bR View Post
    What's going to be really funny is when Apple releases an iPad that runs OSX, I can't imagine it will be too far off, and all the media is going be WOW'd by it because it's Apple. With Mountain Lion they've integrated Facebook and Twitter, there's also an App store to access from OSX, wonder where they got all these ideas from.
    While I don't like Apple one jot and will hopefully never have to own anything Apple, I believe that Apple has been moving towards an integrated OS for some time. It fits in with their 'Walled Garden' ecosystem very well and I guess Microsoft is looking at doing something similar, as it's been very profitable for Apple.
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    By the time apple has integrated mac os and ios to be like Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8, it will be next decade... Point being, apple doesn't move fast enough, which could be a good thing, but right now they're being outpaced by Microsoft by a good mile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    By the time apple has integrated mac os and ios to be like Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8, it will be next decade... Point being, apple doesn't move fast enough, which could be a good thing, but right now they're being outpaced by Microsoft by a good mile.
    A lot of people actually don't care, they seem to be buying Apple stuff by the droves. Android seems to be doing exceptionally well also, led by Samsung who delivered a US$8.3 billion quarterly profit this year. They are not being outpaced by sales, not by a long shot, and that's all that matters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    By the time apple has integrated mac os and ios to be like Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8, it will be next decade... Point being, apple doesn't move fast enough, which could be a good thing, but right now they're being outpaced by Microsoft by a good mile.
    A lot of people actually don't care, they seem to be buying Apple stuff by the droves. Android seems to be doing exceptionally well also, led by Samsung who delivered a US$8.3 billion quarterly profit this year. They are not being outpaced by sales, not by a long shot, and that's all that matters.
    Smartphones, not macs.
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