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Windows 8's uptake falls behind Vista's pace

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Smartphones, not macs.
    I'm not sure what you mean by that, but if it's what they buy, then it's smartphone and tablets. That applies to both Apple and Samsung (and the also rans). Nokia is considering its position and hasn't rules out another OS, as it's not legally tied to Windows Phone. Samsung is also currently looking at Tizen, as another possible OS. And Ubuntu is also showing off a preview of its mobile phone OS (for what its worth).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Smartphones, not macs.
    I'm not sure what you mean by that, but if it's what they buy, then it's smartphone and tablets. That applies to both Apple and Samsung (and the also rans). Nokia is considering its position and hasn't rules out another OS, as it's not legally tied to Windows Phone. Samsung is also currently looking at Tizen, as another possible OS. And Ubuntu is also showing off a preview of its mobile phone OS (for what its worth).
    People buy more iphones than they do macs. If apple lost their ios demand, they'd lost literally half their profit stream and user base. Which means by the time mac os integrates a good deal of ios, it would literally be next decade. An ipad doesn't constitute a mac or PC replacement, but for apple, it does mean replacing out the mac as it's not close to being a cash cow.

    Nokia has last been heard working on two Windows RT tablets that they might reveal at CES soon or a bit later, HTC as well. It's also been speculated that those two Nokia tablets might have a Windows 8 Pro variant a bit down the road. They're not legally tied to Windows and Windows Phone, but they've put ALL their eggs in the Windows Phone basket. They're dropping Symbian for Windows Phone, and don't have actual plans for android other than probably porting their services like their maps and music apps over to android.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    People buy more iphones than they do macs. If apple lost their ios demand, they'd lost literally half their profit stream and user base. Which means by the time mac os integrates a good deal of ios, it would literally be next decade. An ipad doesn't constitute a mac or PC replacement, but for apple, it does mean replacing out the mac as it's not close to being a cash cow.

    Nokia has last been heard working on two Windows RT tablets that they might reveal at CES soon or a bit later, HTC as well. It's also been speculated that those two Nokia tablets might have a Windows 8 Pro variant a bit down the road. They're not legally tied to Windows and Windows Phone, but they've put ALL their eggs in the Windows Phone basket. They're dropping Symbian for Windows Phone, and don't have actual plans for android other than probably porting their services like their maps and music apps over to android.
    People buy more iPads than they do Macs as well. Apple is in no rush to replace OS X with iOS, but it's what they apparently want to do in the long run. They may well hold back and see what happens with Windows 8, as it may well give them an opportunity to cash in on the desktop. After all, as far as I'm aware, the Mac still integrates reasonably well with iOS devices.

    Nokia is still in limbo as far as where they are headed and Windows Phone is their hope, but they have to contend with the new 800lb gorilla that is Samsung, as well as Apple. Where they end up is anyone's guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    People buy more iphones than they do macs. If apple lost their ios demand, they'd lost literally half their profit stream and user base. Which means by the time mac os integrates a good deal of ios, it would literally be next decade. An ipad doesn't constitute a mac or PC replacement, but for apple, it does mean replacing out the mac as it's not close to being a cash cow.

    Nokia has last been heard working on two Windows RT tablets that they might reveal at CES soon or a bit later, HTC as well. It's also been speculated that those two Nokia tablets might have a Windows 8 Pro variant a bit down the road. They're not legally tied to Windows and Windows Phone, but they've put ALL their eggs in the Windows Phone basket. They're dropping Symbian for Windows Phone, and don't have actual plans for android other than probably porting their services like their maps and music apps over to android.
    People buy more iPads than they do Macs as well. Apple is in no rush to replace OS X with iOS, but it's what they apparently want to do in the long run. They may well hold back and see what happens with Windows 8, as it may well give them an opportunity to cash in on the desktop. After all, as far as I'm aware, the Mac still integrates reasonably well with iOS devices.

    Nokia is still in limbo as far as where they are headed and Windows Phone is their hope, but they have to contend with the new 800lb gorilla that is Samsung, as well as Apple. Where they end up is anyone's guess.
    People buying macs is still something to see, but seeing as how not many people are buying macs over Windows PCs, there's little reason to integrate ios into mac os.

    Now on a Windows 8 PC, with a Windows Phone, and/or an Xbox, those pair all together nicely.

    Nokia seems to be in positive territory, as their Lumia 920 is the most sold Windows Phone to date, sold out in mere minutes and hours in China, and is reclaiming market share bits at a time.
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    When mentioning Tablet be sure to note the distinction between Tablet and Tablet PC. They are two different things entirely. The Tablet PC runs like your desktop or laptop as far as being able to install apps while the Tablets, smart phones, and other devices tend to see an embedded OS. Those are not just simply Tablets with external keyboards.

    Doing 2013 since you are bringing up what the Fruit company is doing they are considering slashing the prices on the IPhone due to the rising costs on the other KindleFires and smart phones. While everyone else get "pricey" the Fruit company wants to cash in with their product on the discount line. This would also be a move to match the MS lean on the mobile market as well.
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    "Nokia is still in limbo as far as where they are headed and Windows Phone is their hope, but they have to contend with the new 800lb gorilla that is Samsung, as well as Apple. Where they end up is anyone's guess."

    "Sales of Windows Phone-powered handsets increased by the power five in December 2012, according to Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer.

    Ballmer also confirmed large Windows Phone sales November, claiming they were up by four times from the same period in 2011, but neglected to talk exact numbers."

    That must hurt the naysayers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    "Nokia is still in limbo as far as where they are headed and Windows Phone is their hope, but they have to contend with the new 800lb gorilla that is Samsung, as well as Apple. Where they end up is anyone's guess."

    "Sales of Windows Phone-powered handsets increased by the power five in December 2012, according to Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer.

    Ballmer also confirmed large Windows Phone sales November, claiming they were up by four times from the same period in 2011, but neglected to talk exact numbers."

    That must hurt the naysayers.
    Why is everyone who points out a simple fact about anything Microsoft that you disagree with, a naysayer. Some facts:

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    And here's something positive, a 140% increase in Windows Phone sales from 2011 to 2012:

    http://venturebeat.files.wordpress.c...ng?w=618&h=293

    You can have a 1000% increase of nothing and it's still nothing.
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    "You can have a 1000% increase of nothing and it's still nothing"

    See, you cant help yourself, no matter how much you try to disguise it, you're a naysayer, and you keep bringing up pretty pictures to back you up. It must be like a knife in your stomach every time there is positive news about Windows 8 or WP8.

    I'll bet you've got a doll of Steve Ballmer at home.

    Oh, and all those dates, before Windows 8 and WP8.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    See, you cant help yourself, no matter how much you try to disguise it, you're a naysayer, and you keep bringing up pretty pictures to back you up. It must be like a knife in your stomach every time there is positive news about Windows 8 or WP8.

    I'll bet you've got a doll of Steve Ballmer at home.
    You are hilarious. Truly! I've only ever heard of such devotion and righteous anger being displayed by Apple fanboys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    "You can have a 1000% increase of nothing and it's still nothing"

    See, you cant help yourself, no matter how much you try to disguise it, you're a naysayer, and you keep bringing up pretty pictures to back you up. It must be like a knife in your stomach every time there is positive news about Windows 8 or WP8.

    I'll bet you've got a doll of Steve Ballmer at home.

    Oh, and all those dates, before Windows 8 and WP8.
    I found this to be rather comical!
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