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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
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    You know what is really sad? apple seems to be copying/integrating the clean modern metro design into itunes 11. Just saw it in the flesh, I was livid.

    Even more disturbing, google is doing a similar thing.

    Even more interesting is how that people that don't like or believe in Windows 8 REFUSE to believe anything good about it.
    So it must be a good interface for tablets and maybe that's why they all apply it.
    But people seem to be upset about forcing it into the desktop as well.
    No, this is itunes 11 on the desktop for Windows and mac os. I imagine it looks like a sore thumb on mac os as it doesn't match the overall UI design of it.

    google did the same thing with YouTube in how it poorly scaled on large desktop monitors and nicely on tablets. What OS can render the desktop version of YouTube correctly without issue? Windows 8. That, along with a tablet PC makes the redesign work. I haven't checked if they fixed that though.

    But it's not just itunes on the desktop, it's also the crap designed ipod app on ios, messaging, and appstore and itunes. It seems apple must be comprehending the metro design as white and black, when it's not. Even my friend commented on that, she's not concerned with technology at all! The huge and most significant ingredient apple doesn't understand is digital motion of the UI. google on the other hand kind of gets it.

    Fiends.
    Gray or black and white only is crap. Sorry,no offense... but I wonder: why do our monitors have to be 32bit color if you only use just a few for the interface. Metro's got some color but also got rid of Vista/7 gradients... BUT they removed 16bit resolutions and only allow 32 ones. A lot of awkward changes occurred the last years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hopachi View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hopachi View Post

    So it must be a good interface for tablets and maybe that's why they all apply it.
    But people seem to be upset about forcing it into the desktop as well.
    No, this is itunes 11 on the desktop for Windows and mac os. I imagine it looks like a sore thumb on mac os as it doesn't match the overall UI design of it.

    google did the same thing with YouTube in how it poorly scaled on large desktop monitors and nicely on tablets. What OS can render the desktop version of YouTube correctly without issue? Windows 8. That, along with a tablet PC makes the redesign work. I haven't checked if they fixed that though.

    But it's not just itunes on the desktop, it's also the crap designed ipod app on ios, messaging, and appstore and itunes. It seems apple must be comprehending the metro design as white and black, when it's not. Even my friend commented on that, she's not concerned with technology at all! The huge and most significant ingredient apple doesn't understand is digital motion of the UI. google on the other hand kind of gets it.

    Fiends.
    Gray or black and white only is crap. Sorry,no offense... but I wonder: why do our monitors have to be 32bit color if you only use just a few for the interface. Metro's got some color but also got rid of Vista/7 gradients... BUT they removed 16bit resolutions and only allow 32 ones. A lot of awkward changes occurred the last years.
    That's a question to be asked for apple. What makes them think that black, white, grey and blue are fantastically great colors is beyond me.

    The metro design is revolved around the use of color on either a dark or light or rich background. Overall though, Windows 8 compared to macs is comparing a box of crayons versus a box of grey crayons. LOADS more color, lots of digital motion (no wobbly windows) and lots of clean and fairly consistent design. Even with ios, there mixed elements of old design and new design that makes things inconsistent where Windows Phone and even android is more consistent.

    Speaking of such and on a real unrelated note, the Windows Blue update may actually further refine the Desktop, probably will chuck out the Areo iconography. Too gross.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    The metro design is revolved around the use of color on either a dark or light or rich background. Overall though, Windows 8 compared to macs is comparing a box of crayons versus a box of grey crayons.
    Agree. Color says it all. Why not use it if monitor supports it!

    Speaking of such and on a real unrelated note, the Windows Blue update may actually further refine the Desktop, probably will chuck out the Areo iconography. Too gross.
    Let's hope so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MS
    “So far we’re seeing very encouraging things,” Larson-Green says of the large volume of data that Microsoft receives every day from people using Windows 8 who have chosen to join the company’s “customer experience improvement program.”
    If that's the same stat collection which told them that they can get rid of the Start Menu, then they can keep this comment for themselves.
    Anyway what Microsoft is saying is irrelevant. They don't want to read the opinion of the poeple, so they shouldn't expect us to read theirs.
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot
    You know what is really sad? apple seems to be copying/integrating the clean modern metro design into itunes 11. Just saw it in the flesh, I was livid. Even more disturbing, google is doing a similar thing. Even more interesting is how that people that don't like or believe in Windows 8 REFUSE to believe anything good about it.
    You know what? I think that this new W8 style is not a question of more readability, cleanliness or even taste. It's a fashion.
    It's a fashion launched by Microsoft and because they make incredible advertising campain about it and because you see it everywhere, this fashion is there and other companies have to follow suit.
    IMO I still feel it's ugly, no matter what the industry decided what the fashion will be.
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    I am not sure anybody is copying from w8.

    Why would anyone in their right mind copy from a product that is doing so badly ( atm at least )?

    Cokie, I don't suppose you realise the feeling at Apple has been their ui is a bit fussy for a long while - at least since Mike Mace was doing platform marketing there.

    I expect they hadn't done anything about previously as there was so much else to concentrate on with new launches.

    Now they are in a period of product life extension, they can start doing those things.

    More important now, in fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fredledingue View Post

    It's a fashion launched by Microsoft and because they make incredible advertising campain about it and because you see it everywhere, this fashion is there and other companies have to follow suit.
    IMO I still feel it's ugly, no matter what the industry decided what the fashion will be.
    My daughter goes one further and believes anything sold by the fruit company is a lifestyle choice (plus of course a fashion accessory) - forget whether it's any better than their last product and does what it's needed for. Must have the latest (not necessarily the best). LOL

    Now I hope MS are not going to fall into that category.
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    Both my new laptop and my dad's new desktop came with Windows 8 preinstalled. Neither I nor my dad are using the Start screen, ever. I haven't even bothered looking for apps that might appeal to me. I avoid touchscreens like the plague because display quality versus cost matters to me, I hate fatty fingerprints on my screen, and the mouse is over a dozen times more accurate, as well as more ergonomically relaxing. I don't use the touchpad of my laptop unless I am forced to, for similar reasons.
    Anything that doesn't require going fullscreen shouldn't go fullscreen, hence I am using the Classic Start Menu of Classic Shell. Media Center and Windows Media Player is just bloatware compared to Media Player Classic HomeCinema (using LAV Splitter and madVR renderer) and foobar2000. So, basically, I got used to Windows 8 virtually the same way I got used to all other Windows versions, namely by either skipping them entirely or by fixing them. Fixing them, McGyver-style.
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    Windows 8 Falls Behind Even the Maligned Vista

    Windows 8 Falls Behind Even the Maligned Vista - Legit Reviews
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    Quote Originally Posted by mart
    My daughter goes one further and believes anything sold by the fruit company is a lifestyle choice (plus of course a fashion accessory) - forget whether it's any better than their last product and does what it's needed for. Must have the latest (not necessarily the best). LOL
    Exactely! Most of the youth function like that. They think you'r an old fart if you don't have the last stuff. They think you are a bum if you don't have a fruit logo on the lad. (Part of the reason why MS is not even denting the tablet market.) Windows PC is symbol of the cheap choice, of the one who can't afford or of the nerd who don't want to be cool even when we told him so.
    Yet, they will think W8's Metro is more cool than old fashioned Vista-looking 7. At least they reckon that Windows is coming up with something that is visualy new and worth including in fashion trends.
    The future of the OS will be decided by couturiers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcnulty View Post
    Windows 8 Falls Behind Even the Maligned Vista

    Windows 8 Falls Behind Even the Maligned Vista - Legit Reviews

    Ouch...that's gotta hurt...
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