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Rumor: Microsoft preparing 3 new Surface tablets for 2013

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    the ARM in the upcoming AMD chip is for security purposes, not as a general processor.

    an AMD chip would be really interesting in this field because that's what iPads and other tablets do. they pair a strong GPU with a weak CPU.

    any x64 class AMD CPU would wipe the floor with any ARM processor and the AMD GPU would also kill. it's just curious why AMD can't compete in this field. the most likely reason is AMD cannot subsidize this area like how Intel subsidizes the low end market with their high end products.

    Quote Originally Posted by gazz9496 View Post
    aren't amd going to be integrating arm architechture on their dye as well as the x86 from next year as well?

    read that somewhere...can't remember where now.

    well here's a link to it an article on it anway.(not the one i read but close enough)
    AMD will integrate ARM processors in its 2013 x86 APUs | The Verge

    with this addition to amd chips, surface style tablets will be able to run both arm based store apps and x86 applications.
    and i should have read that article.....just security lol, ah well there goes a great opportunity to have cross platform applications on one device.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtyvu View Post
    the ARM in the upcoming AMD chip is for security purposes, not as a general processor.

    an AMD chip would be really interesting in this field because that's what iPads and other tablets do. they pair a strong GPU with a weak CPU.

    any x64 class AMD CPU would wipe the floor with any ARM processor and the AMD GPU would also kill. it's just curious why AMD can't compete in this field. the most likely reason is AMD cannot subsidize this area like how Intel subsidizes the low end market with their high end products.

    Quote Originally Posted by gazz9496 View Post
    aren't amd going to be integrating arm architechture on their dye as well as the x86 from next year as well?

    read that somewhere...can't remember where now.

    well here's a link to it an article on it anway.(not the one i read but close enough)
    AMD will integrate ARM processors in its 2013 x86 APUs | The Verge

    with this addition to amd chips, surface style tablets will be able to run both arm based store apps and x86 applications.
    and i should have read that article.....just security lol, ah well there goes a great opportunity to have cross platform applications on one device.
    AMD can go down the ARM processing route if they felt like it, an ARM chip with a Radeon graphics chip, THAT would be a neat Windows 8 RT device!

    I don't think Intel really subsidizes so much for lower end hardware, they just use the Pentium chip for lower end hardware, or the Atom for lower end/low power PCs. I kind of think AMD is having troubles with the mobile APU because there might not be enough motherboards for the APU to work with different form factors. Or, they're just not advertising it well enough. Shoot, on the desktop, an A10 APU costs less than an i5 and do some real graphical whooping on the i5, which matters for gaming as well as running Windows 8 metro apps as well as GPU enabled Desktop apps. APU powered laptops cost less than their i5 counterparts.

    Very curious...
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    I've got an iPad Mini it's a pretty useless little thing, it's slow, has WiFi dropouts and awfull resolution. The only good thing about it is that it's light, I only bought it for using on a trip to book hotels and flights and stuff. Now that I'm back home I rarely use it, preferring the iPad 3.
    I've got an Android tablet as well, but once the Pros and the new Surface tablets come out I'll be doing some more shopping, I get a bit sick of the limitations of the iPads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    I've got an iPad Mini it's a pretty useless little thing, it's slow, has WiFi dropouts and awfull resolution. The only good thing about it is that it's light, I only bought it for using on a trip to book hotels and flights and stuff. Now that I'm back home I rarely use it, preferring the iPad 3.
    Strange my iPad mini suffers from none of those things and I use it as much if not more than my iPad3 due the the weight and comport of holding it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtyvu View Post
    the ARM in the upcoming AMD chip is for security purposes, not as a general processor.

    an AMD chip would be really interesting in this field because that's what iPads and other tablets do. they pair a strong GPU with a weak CPU.

    any x64 class AMD CPU would wipe the floor with any ARM processor and the AMD GPU would also kill. it's just curious why AMD can't compete in this field. the most likely reason is AMD cannot subsidize this area like how Intel subsidizes the low end market with their high end products.

    Quote Originally Posted by gazz9496 View Post
    aren't amd going to be integrating arm architechture on their dye as well as the x86 from next year as well?

    read that somewhere...can't remember where now.

    well here's a link to it an article on it anway.(not the one i read but close enough)
    AMD will integrate ARM processors in its 2013 x86 APUs | The Verge

    with this addition to amd chips, surface style tablets will be able to run both arm based store apps and x86 applications.
    and i should have read that article.....just security lol, ah well there goes a great opportunity to have cross platform applications on one device.

    yer i did amend that, when i first read about it there was just speculation around what it was going to add, that article covered the more recent news on it, i really should have read it, but i added it in mid post when i was in a rush and didn't read it fully.

    sorry for the misunderstanding
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    I've got an iPad Mini it's a pretty useless little thing, it's slow, has WiFi dropouts and awfull resolution. The only good thing about it is that it's light, I only bought it for using on a trip to book hotels and flights and stuff. Now that I'm back home I rarely use it, preferring the iPad 3.
    I've got an Android tablet as well, but once the Pros and the new Surface tablets come out I'll be doing some more shopping, I get a bit sick of the limitations of the iPads.
    Wow, I guess it seems it's not just me!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by z3r010 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    I've got an iPad Mini it's a pretty useless little thing, it's slow, has WiFi dropouts and awfull resolution. The only good thing about it is that it's light, I only bought it for using on a trip to book hotels and flights and stuff. Now that I'm back home I rarely use it, preferring the iPad 3.
    Strange my iPad mini suffers from none of those things and I use it as much if not more than my iPad3 due the the weight and comport of holding it.
    Considering the Mini is built on old Architecture, the iPad 2, it's impossible not to have all those problems, and IOS 6 is well known for WiFi dropouts, maybe you were lucky and got one with an A6 processor

    They just rushed the Mini out because they were losing market share, don't get me wrong, it could be a good machine, but this is not it, maybe the next one.
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    I just don't really see why anyone would need or want one. Seriously, it's barely double the size of my Windows Phone's screen, not even double the size of a Lumia 920's screen or any other android 4 handset. It does not compute in my brain, process is not responding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    I just don't really see why anyone would need or want one. Seriously, it's barely double the size of my Windows Phone's screen, not even double the size of a Lumia 920's screen or any other android 4 handset. It does not compute in my brain, process is not responding.
    Even though I'm not wrapped in the iPad Mini, I'm absolutely positive there is demand for devices of this size. I've got a HTC ONE X with 4.7" screen, but I find it just a bit small for some things like web browsing, looking for Hotels and Flights and Maps etc. I think something around this size is great for travelling and probably lots of other things.

    The thing is at this size the resolution has to be very good, just like a phone, otherwise it makes it very hard to read, and that's the problem I find with the Mini I can barely make out the writing and after a while my eyes get fatigued. I know I'm not the only one, nearly everyone that's got one complains of the same thing.

    I believe even MS is going to bring one out eventually, if they do, they'd better make sure the resolution is spot on or it will be a flop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    I just don't really see why anyone would need or want one. Seriously, it's barely double the size of my Windows Phone's screen, not even double the size of a Lumia 920's screen or any other android 4 handset. It does not compute in my brain, process is not responding.
    Even though I'm not wrapped in the iPad Mini, I'm absolutely positive there is demand for devices of this size. I've got a HTC ONE X with 4.7" screen, but I find it just a bit small for some things like web browsing, looking for Hotels and Flights and Maps etc. I think something around this size is great for travelling and probably lots of other things.

    The thing is at this size the resolution has to be very good, just like a phone, otherwise it makes it very hard to read, and that's the problem I find with the Mini I can barely make out the writing and after a while my eyes get fatigued. I know I'm not the only one, nearly everyone that's got one complains of the same thing.

    I believe even MS is going to bring one out eventually, if they do, they'd better make sure the resolution is spot on or it will be a flop.
    The Windows Blue update is reportedly going to optimize Windows RT for 7 and 8 inch screens. Maybe then, I'll take keenly on them, as if again, there is full sized USB port and some other neat things, but until then I'm not sold. The ipad mini is literally a slightly better ipod touch and double the screen size. To me, it's just another redundant device. But my question if that happens, how will Office work on a screen so small?
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