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BIOS-embedded Windows 8 product keys - reinstall troubles?

  1. #51


    Melbourne, Australia
    Posts : 7
    Windows 8.1 Enterprise


    HI,

    You need the "Retail OEM" install media to utilise your embedded windows license. Technet versions are never Retail either so I'm pretty sure it was never using you embedded license. The Technet version you installed maybe was volume licensed? Did you ever verify which edition it was and the license key?

    Unfortunately for you, Retail OEM Install media are only distributed to OEMs so you're only chance is to download it illegally.

    So anyway, a factory recovery disk would usually restore your machine to "Out-Of-Box" state. The recovery disk usually contains a custom windows image but nowadays, the vendors keep the windows image on a recovery boot partition hidden on your hard disk.

    Seeing that your hardware is still under warranty, Dell should offer to restore your machine to factory. If you've voided the warranty by swapping the hard drive, then I'm sure our wouldn't be too difficult to find the Windows OEM Media... Or maybe even go to your nearest Dell reseller and ask them.

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  2. #52


    Melbourne, Australia
    Posts : 7
    Windows 8.1 Enterprise


    By the way, if you think your technet Win 8.0 install is retail, you should be able to upgrade to Win 8.1 for free via the Microsoft Store (rhe one on the Metro screen). Make sure your Windows Updates are up too date, otherwise the Windows 8.1 free upgrade won't appear in the store.
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  3. #53


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 6,490
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    Quote Originally Posted by tupham View Post
    HI,

    You need the "Retail OEM" install media to utilise your embedded windows license. Technet versions are never Retail either so I'm pretty sure it was never using you embedded license. The Technet version you installed maybe was volume licensed? Did you ever verify which edition it was and the license key?

    Unfortunately for you, Retail OEM Install media are only distributed to OEMs so you're only chance is to download it illegally.

    So anyway, a factory recovery disk would usually restore your machine to "Out-Of-Box" state. The recovery disk usually contains a custom windows image but nowadays, the vendors keep the windows image on a recovery boot partition hidden on your hard disk.

    Seeing that your hardware is still under warranty, Dell should offer to restore your machine to factory. If you've voided the warranty by swapping the hard drive, then I'm sure our wouldn't be too difficult to find the Windows OEM Media... Or maybe even go to your nearest Dell reseller and ask them.
    I verified that my TechNet ISO did in fact use my embedded key. 8.0 Core was installed automatically. And no it was not volume license, it was Windows 8 (multiple editions) (x64) - DVD (English) which can install Core or Pro. My TechNet and MSDN keys are listed as being Retail Keys.
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  4. #54


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 6,490
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    Quote Originally Posted by tupham View Post
    By the way, if you think your technet Win 8.0 install is retail, you should be able to upgrade to Win 8.1 for free via the Microsoft Store (rhe one on the Metro screen). Make sure your Windows Updates are up too date, otherwise the Windows 8.1 free upgrade won't appear in the store.
    I did upgrade to 8.1 on my laptop as a test and had issues so I have no desire to go down that road again. I can do a clean install of 8.1 and avoid the whole update download etc. I could have saved using one of my TechNet keys but I have more than I need so I used them. It's a lot quicker and easier to just clean install 8.1 Pro and be done with it.
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  5. #55


    Posts : 879
    Windows 10


    Quote Originally Posted by ccpyue View Post
    is that means these Disks have containing the Window ISO file inside?
    If you have created a Windows 8 recovery USB flash drive by selecting the option "Copy the recovery partition from the PC to the recovery drive", then the sources folder contains the install.wim image file or the split image files: Install.swm, Install2.swm, Install3.swm, etc

    Here is more info: Need help reinstalling Windonws 8 from USB

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  6. #56


    Melbourne, Australia
    Posts : 7
    Windows 8.1 Enterprise


    Totally agree. . the factory images are always full of bloatware. Plus you get extra disk space if you blow away the recovery partition and compile a USB recovery disk or burn it to dvds.
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  7. #57


    Posts : 5,592
    ME, XP,Vista,Win7,Win8,Win8.1


    Totally disagree, you have options to buy OEM manufacturer's PC's with clean install DVD's Windows 7 & 8 (8.1)

    It is all about doing your homework.

    Some OEM manufacturer's are now install Windows 7.

    My OEM test rig,Windows 8 specs:

    Quote Originally Posted by OEM
    OS Provided Windows 8 Pro 64-bit Edition Microsoft Office Preloaded Includes a pre-loaded image of select Microsoft Office 2010 suites. Purchase an Office 2010 Product Key Card or disc to activate preloaded software on this PC. Software Drivers & Utilities, Nero Essentials S, Microsoft Office 2010 Starter, Norton Internet Security (60 days trial), Recovery, Windows 7 / Windows 8 Pro Twin-Pack recovery DVD

    My OEM test rig,Windows 8.1 specs:

    Quote Originally Posted by OEM
    Compatible operating systems

    Microsoft Windows 8, Windows 7 Professional 64-bit, Windows 7 Professional 32-bit, Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit, Windows 7 Home Basic (EM) 32-bit,\r\nWindows Vista, Windows XP, \r\nopenSUSE Linux
    Windows 8.1 specs:
    Quote Originally Posted by OEM
    Windows 7 Professional Load with Windows 8.1 Pro license + Office 2013 trial,
    Both rig's came with OEM manufacturer's clean install DVD's Windows 7 & 8 (8.1)
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  8. #58


    Stop buying big box OEM PC's and support your local PC Guy
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  9. #59


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 6,490
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    Sure you have that option, but how many OEM's actually let you do that, and at what price? I also bet it's not every system they sell. The average Joe is still (for the most part) stuck with the bloated factory OEM install and no real install media.
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  10. #60


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 6,490
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    Quote Originally Posted by vrosa View Post
    Stop buying big box OEM PC's and support your local PC Guy
    Sort of. I build my own desktop PC's so I installed the OS of my choice and skiped all the unneeded bloat. Not so easy to do if you buy a laptop or tablet though. I'm lucky and have an MSDN subscription so I wiped both our laptops and did clean installs on SSD's. Not everybody can do that. Getting your hands on the ISO's can be a pain for a lot of people.

    I don't see myself ever buying a premade OEM desktop PC, and even if I did It wouldn't be long before I reinstalled the OS my way.
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