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BIOS-embedded Windows 8 product keys - reinstall troubles?

  1. #21


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    well with some advice from alphanumeric and some others i solved an issue regarding this as the bios got broken by an update of some kind.

    you can just run a windows 8 disc through of the same version.

    it picks up the licence key and uses it then activates online.

    in the bios you can export the licence key but only in it's encrypted format you need all parts should be a list, key encryption (kek) and so forth.(not actually tried this yet) but similar to other encryption methods i've used.

    pop down to a local repair shop and ask for a copy of a windows 8 disc, i mean a copy of the retail version, most will have one...i certainly do. without the key the disc is useless anyway.

    without trying to annoy anyone and not condoning piracy but there are sources you can go to for a iso image and burn that to disc/usb for clean install.

    lots of options here but if the bios gets screwed up like it did with the one i had, it should when online activate and fix that in the bios as well, how it does that i'm not sure but it has a way of checking with microsoft servers.

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  2. #22


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    Quote Originally Posted by gazz9496 View Post
    without trying to annoy anyone and not condoning piracy but there are sources you can go to for a iso image and burn that to disc/usb for clean install.
    Digital River is recognized as an official legitimate source. But I don't know if the links to Windows 8 are up yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FuturDreamz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by gazz9496 View Post
    without trying to annoy anyone and not condoning piracy but there are sources you can go to for a iso image and burn that to disc/usb for clean install.
    Digital River is recognized as an official legitimate source. But I don't know if the links to Windows 8 are up yet.
    not checked myself the page is there but the last i checked the links weren't going anywhere yet.
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  4. #24


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    Bios updates could be interesting? Right now for a Windows 7 PC it's a one BIOS fits all deal. My Turbo 5 Model 3 has the same BIOS as any Turbo 5 Model 3. They all have the same OEM SLIC table and matching product Code. With OA3.0 Each Turbo 5 Model 3 has a unique BIOS all its own. The flash routine is going to have to pull the hash from the current BIOS and add it to the new one. Or the manufacturer is going to have to issue a unique (updated) BIOS for each PC on a one on one basis. Anyway, to make a long story short. If this process fails, flashing your BIOS could break your OEM activation. I can see a good chance of another round of "this PC is not genuine" complaints in the future.
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  5. #25


    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    Bios updates could be interesting? Right now for a Windows 7 PC it's a one BIOS fits all deal. My Turbo 5 Model 3 has the same BIOS as any Turbo 5 Model 3. They all have the same OEM SLIC table and matching product Code. With OA3.0 Each Turbo 5 Model 3 has a unique BIOS all its own. The flash routine is going to have to pull the hash from the current BIOS and add it to the new one. Or the manufacturer is going to have to issue a unique (updated) BIOS for each PC on a one on one basis. Anyway, to make a long story short. If this process fails, flashing your BIOS could break your OEM activation. I can see a good chance of another round of "this PC is not genuine" complaints in the future.
    OA3tool generates this at build as well as all needed hardware hashes etc.

    The OA3 is stored in a section of the BIOS that is marked as locked to prevent changes (unlike the slic tables for older windows). And so is not included in the flashable bioses from the manufacturer.
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  6. #26


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    Quote Originally Posted by aramil View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    Bios updates could be interesting? Right now for a Windows 7 PC it's a one BIOS fits all deal. My Turbo 5 Model 3 has the same BIOS as any Turbo 5 Model 3. They all have the same OEM SLIC table and matching product Code. With OA3.0 Each Turbo 5 Model 3 has a unique BIOS all its own. The flash routine is going to have to pull the hash from the current BIOS and add it to the new one. Or the manufacturer is going to have to issue a unique (updated) BIOS for each PC on a one on one basis. Anyway, to make a long story short. If this process fails, flashing your BIOS could break your OEM activation. I can see a good chance of another round of "this PC is not genuine" complaints in the future.
    OA3tool generates this at build as well as all needed hardware hashes etc.

    The OA3 is stored in a section of the BIOS that is marked as locked to prevent changes (unlike the slic tables for older windows). And so is not included in the flashable bioses from the manufacturer.

    That was my point, and my fear.

    Will a BIOS-flash remove the MS crap or not?

    That's ALL I want to know.

    If the answer is no, then I will NOT be installing Win 8 retail.

    Under ANY circumstances.
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  7. #27


    Quote Originally Posted by Kat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by aramil View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    Bios updates could be interesting? Right now for a Windows 7 PC it's a one BIOS fits all deal. My Turbo 5 Model 3 has the same BIOS as any Turbo 5 Model 3. They all have the same OEM SLIC table and matching product Code. With OA3.0 Each Turbo 5 Model 3 has a unique BIOS all its own. The flash routine is going to have to pull the hash from the current BIOS and add it to the new one. Or the manufacturer is going to have to issue a unique (updated) BIOS for each PC on a one on one basis. Anyway, to make a long story short. If this process fails, flashing your BIOS could break your OEM activation. I can see a good chance of another round of "this PC is not genuine" complaints in the future.
    OA3tool generates this at build as well as all needed hardware hashes etc.

    The OA3 is stored in a section of the BIOS that is marked as locked to prevent changes (unlike the slic tables for older windows). And so is not included in the flashable bioses from the manufacturer.

    That was my point, and my fear.

    Will a BIOS-flash remove the MS crap or not?

    That's ALL I want to know.

    If the answer is no, then I will NOT be installing Win 8 retail.

    Under ANY circumstances.
    No this only applies to OEM windows. where it can not be removed from bios.

    Retail versions do not add OA3 to the bios. They generate a hardware hash with the supplied key.
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  8. #28


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    Fine.

    The WIN 8 RTM is being removed from the 8951 as I speak.

    The CP will be removed from this tomorrow.

    To Hell with W8. Try to push ME where I won't go....see what happens.
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  9. #29


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
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    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    Kat, BIOS SLIC tables have been around since XP, maybe even before that. This embedded code will actually make it easier to do OEM installs. The way it is now with Windows 7 and below, you have to have the matching branded OEM media to reinstall and retain your OEM-SLP activation. Now all you need is a regular Retail Windows 8 or Windows 8 Pro DVD. Clean installs to ditch the bloat ware are going to be easier to do. And as mentioned, your off the shelf bought motherboards won't have it. This embedded code is your Windows 8 license. ASUS, Gigabyte, etc, aren't going to give you a free version of Windows 8 so the code won't be there.
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  10. #30


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    Windows 8.1 Pro x64


    The following comes to mind, spite, face, nose .....
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