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BIOS-embedded Windows 8 product keys - reinstall troubles?

  1. #11


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    Quote Originally Posted by FuturDreamz View Post
    Wouldn't that mean that replacement motherboards would have to ship with their own keys?
    I don't believe so, I thought each OEM has a specific key, which was then activated by Microsoft, and a unique check scum of the hardware/OS/UEFI was stored in the OS when being activated online or through the phone.

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    if that is the case then there will be no more finding a clean OEM disk and trying to reinstall without all the factory garbage the OEM's throw in. You will either have to use the disk provided by the OEM, or the clean install method from within Win8 recovery.

    However, Buy Barebones and a System Builder OEM Disk. That is the solution.
    Or from small shops that won't install garbage.

    Stop buying big box OEM PC's and support your local PC Guy
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  3. #13


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    Quote Originally Posted by ionbasa View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by FuturDreamz View Post
    Wouldn't that mean that replacement motherboards would have to ship with their own keys?
    I don't believe so, I thought each OEM has a specific key, which was then activated by Microsoft, and a unique check scum of the hardware/OS/UEFI was stored in the OS when being activated online or through the phone.
    With the old OA2.1 and windows 7 and lower that was the case. Dell had its key HP had its key etc. With the new OA3.0, that Windows 8 uses, each PC has a unique product key all its own. There isn't any real point in trying to find it as you can't use it anyway. From what I've read, if the install media see the BIOS product code it uses it and installs the matching version of Windows 8. It will then activate online the first chance it gets. If you are trying to install 8 Pro and it installed core by default all you do is go to add features and type in your Pro product code. It will then upgrade and activate with the new key. Same deal to add media center. If its an off the shelf non OEM branded motherboard with a normal BIOS, you'll get asked to enter your product code and it will install what ever version your install media is coded for. That's what I've read, haven't tried any of it myself to prove it one way or the other though.
    Last edited by alphanumeric; 07 Dec 2012 at 04:26.
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  4. #14


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tepid View Post
    if that is the case then there will be no more finding a clean OEM disk and trying to reinstall without all the factory garbage the OEM's throw in. You will either have to use the disk provided by the OEM, or the clean install method from within Win8 recovery.

    However, Buy Barebones and a System Builder OEM Disk. That is the solution.
    Or from small shops that won't install garbage.

    Stop buying big box OEM PC's and support your local PC Guy
    I completely agree! Mind you this doesn't really work with laptops.
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  5. #15


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    Windows 8.1 Pro x64


    Ok! Here's what's happening. If you have a laptop with a bios embedded key you CAN use a OEM disk to install and activate. As long as the disk matches the version of the key embedded. Windows 8 (core) or Windows 8 (Pro).

    I get new laptops all the time for setup before they are put into service and I use OEM disk to flush all the OEM add in bloat ware. Then install all required software for the final user.

    So the short answer is you just don't have to type a product key when installing. But any Windows 8 disk will work.
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  6. #16


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    Quote Originally Posted by FuturDreamz View Post
    1. What if you want to do a clean install?
    It can be done with the provided recovery media but depends on manufacturer.
    HP, for example, gives you the choice weather you install all their programs or none of them: leaving the system clean.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fragment137 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tepid View Post
    if that is the case then there will be no more finding a clean OEM disk and trying to reinstall without all the factory garbage the OEM's throw in. You will either have to use the disk provided by the OEM, or the clean install method from within Win8 recovery.

    However, Buy Barebones and a System Builder OEM Disk. That is the solution.
    Or from small shops that won't install garbage.

    Stop buying big box OEM PC's and support your local PC Guy
    I completely agree! Mind you this doesn't really work with laptops.
    That is not entirely true. It is not as prevalent, but they do exist.
    Takes a little more creative hunting, but.....

    Amazon.com: MSI Whitebook MS-16F3 - 15.6" - no CPU - no OS - 0: Electronics

    Ok, so, I did some searching. And it is unfortunate, but this market has dried up. A few years ago, they really tried very hard to open the path to bare bones laptops. I think there are some still out there, but they are hard to find. so I concede.
    Last edited by Tepid; 04 Dec 2012 at 22:10.
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    I bought a laptop with windows 8 preinstalled. Never again. HP recovery has 3 options. Can't remember exactly but minimal, factory, and another type. There was no installation that did not put something of HP stuff on computer. One of them appeared to look good until went into system 32 folder and saw some HP files in there. Doing clean instal from windows 8 said need to use installation disks ie recovery disks cause installation files werent good enough. Called Microsoft asking how to do a clean instal. Can't even buy windows 8 yet to do that. Not till january 31st will you get a key to freeh instal windows. On the feedback form I told them way to fight piracy. They lost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Torrentula81 View Post
    I bought a laptop with windows 8 preinstalled. Never again. HP recovery has 3 options. Can't remember exactly but minimal, factory, and another type. There was no installation that did not put something of HP stuff on computer. One of them appeared to look good until went into system 32 folder and saw some HP files in there. Doing clean instal from windows 8 said need to use installation disks ie recovery disks cause installation files werent good enough. Called Microsoft asking how to do a clean instal. Can't even buy windows 8 yet to do that. Not till january 31st will you get a key to freeh instal windows. On the feedback form I told them way to fight piracy. They lost.
    Have a look on the web, you can in the UK.
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