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Are SSDs the new RAM for boosting system performance?

  1. #11


    Probably the single best noticeable thing you can do to your system is install an ssd.

    In terms of reliability ssd wins hands down, no heat or moving parts.

    No one says you have to use one, but your loss if you do not.

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  2. #12


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    As mentioned above, it's the access time that makes SSDs perform so much better than a HDD. Everything runs faster, not just bootup.

    Seeing the response of people change from 'they are too expensive' to 'WOW, this is the greatest performance upgrade I have ever done'. The most common statement is 'Why did I wait so long' and 'I will never be able to go back to a spinner'.
    But, the choice belongs to each person.

    What I can't understand is when someone gets a new fast CPU, middle to upper range motherboard, large amount of RAM, powerful GPU, and then puts only a HDD in the system.
    It's like putting wagon wheels on a Ferrari.
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  3. #13


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    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Oooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh yeah!

    You really don't understand how throttled down hard drive based PCs are until you pop a SSD in one. Seriously, an Intel Atom powered netbook can start up faster than a hard drive bases system with an i5 and higher. Yes, boot time isn't a full indication of performance, but that does show just how limited PC hardware can be with a hard drive.

    It is like putting wagon wheels on a Ferrari.
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  4. #14


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    Windows Phone 6, Windows CE 5, Windows Vista x32, Windows 7 x32/x64, Windows 8 x64


    I have an Intel Atom powered tablet, the SSD makes diddly squat difference to anything; start up, programs, shut down.
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  5. #15


    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    Hi there
    a 128 SSD can be had for around 90 EUR now -- was around 170 EUR about a year ago - so larger capacity drives will soon appear.

    I find a 128 SSD in a laptop with either a USB3 external data stick or smal 2TB self powered passport USB3 ext drive a really good combination.

    W8 on an SSD really does FLY. If you don't get an improvement with an SSD there is something else radically wrong with your system / hardware.

    (USB3 ports and devices really do work as well -- you should get Disk transfer rates at LEAST 6X faster than USB2 -- I think the theoretical maximum is 10X but you'll be very luck to get that --6X faster than USB 2 though is very acceptable).

    @ Ray8 --tablets are different -- the whole I/O / Bus structure etc are different to a PC -- also the OS unless your tablet is running W8 wil be totally different -- things like Caching, overlapping I/O with processing requests etc etc are all fundamental to the OS.

    You have to compare like with like. On a "traditional computer" or laptop the differences are HUGE.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    @ Ray8 --tablets are different -- the whole I/O / Bus structure etc are different to a PC -- also the OS unless your tablet is running W8 wil be totally different -- things like Caching, overlapping I/O with processing requests etc etc are all fundamental to the OS.

    You have to compare like with like. On a "traditional computer" or laptop the differences are HUGE.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    Considering that one of the central tenets of Windows 8 is its use with tablets, then the performance of an SSD in a tablet is fairly relevant. And I did specifically note that the SSD in my tablet didn't make a substantial difference in performance.

    Also, if I were considering an SSD for a PC, I think I'd rather consider an accelerator SSD, rather than a dedicated one for the OS and programs. An accelerator SSD brings almost the same speeds as a dedicated SSD and if it bites the dust prematurely as some SSDs are wont to do, then the system merely reverts to its normal speed, with nothing lost.
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  7. #17


    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    Hi there
    depends also on the SSD -- if the SSD is an old one then the performance wouldn't be THAT great -- but the newer one's (SAMSUNG, VERTEX etc) really DO FLY. The technology has improved hugely in the last 12 months.

    If your tablet is designed to run windows7 or windows 8 I'm surprised that the SSD doesn't make a difference unless it's an OLD SSD

    I doubt in a cheaper tablet whether the original HDD would have been good (fast 7200 RPM with decent cache) so I'm really surprised by your findings.


    Cheers
    jimbo
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  8. #18


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    Would it be worth upgrading to a new ssd on a sata 2 mainboard ? As far as what I see on the net, ssd drives performs slower on sata 2 mainboards.
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  9. #19


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    Win 7 Pro x64


    Quote Originally Posted by Kat View Post
    On a $/GB basis an SSD isn't even in the same universe as a spinner.

    And until they are, AND are as reliable, I'm not interested.

    I've had 2 SSD's over the past 3 or 4 years, and still using the 2nd one. Haven't had a single problem with either one. The reason I bought the 2nd one was because I wanted one a little larger.

    If there are reliability problems, I haven't experienced any.
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  10. #20


    Quote Originally Posted by ecevit View Post
    Would it be worth upgrading to a new ssd on a sata 2 mainboard ? As far as what I see on the net, ssd drives performs slower on sata 2 mainboards.
    Absolutely. People hyper focus on megabytes/sec throughput. However, the biggest bang for the buck, far and away, is the ultra low random access time and getting to any file on the file system, in 0.1ms. Versus a standard hard drive which is around 15ms.

    The SSD's that I use on systems, are ONLY on machines with SATA 2 boards. I don't have boxes at present with Sata 6.0Gbps ports.
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