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Windows XP is a ticking time-bomb with only 500 days to go

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    Windows XP is a ticking time-bomb with only 500 days to go


    The countdown clock has been ticking on Windows XP for a couple of years now, but the end is coming into view. There are only 500 days to go before Microsoft ends its extended support, and that means no more patches and no more security fixes. Given that XP is not exactly famous for its security, this represents a significant risk.
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    Windows XP is a ticking time-bomb with only 500 days to go | ZDNet

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    I had XP on my computer before I upgraded to 7, there is a time when you have to sell your antiques, or should I say delete them - life goes on. On another note, you cannot get a better deal on the Windows 8 Upgrade.

    d2
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    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    Hi there
    some of the comments listed AFTER the article just show how little supposedly I.T savvy people really know about some businesses even when reading their own press.

    You get the usual rants of ignorant people saying why hang on to an OS that's over 10 years old.

    A lot of people keep using older OS's because they have some quite specialized hardware which is incredibly expensive to replace (if indeed it can be) and it doesn't work on newer OS's. Not only that the original manufacturer might no longer be in business and there just isn't a cheap affordable alternative.

    Some of this hardware is incredibly expensive and not likely to be seen in most people's home set ups. - There's a HUGE amount of older but still used instrumentation kit (e.g spectrum analysers) etc that only runs on XP or even Windows 2000.

    Sometimes there are old payroll or other perfectly good legacy systems that still work so an expensive software upgrade isn't needed -- all sorts of VALID reasons why people use an OLD OS. - These systems even if not run as a Virtual machine really don't need to be connected to the Internet anyway or even to a company LAN. Security is an overblown topic here when dealing with legacy stuff like this.

    I myself still use an old HP Mechanical plotter --works fine.

    XP can be used sensibly for YEARS yet - as a virtual machine it doesn't even NEED to be connected to the Internet so security is a moot point anyway.

    With todays hardware even a modest laptop will easily accommodate an XP Virtual machine with almost no loss of resources.

    The ZDNET articles I suppose are just "scaremongering" or getting people to spend a lot of unnecessary money on expensive external consultants to do "Last minute" panic upgrades when a Virtual Machine based type of solution could be quicker, cheaper and a lot less painful.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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    Well said, sometimes old is good -I should know.


    Cheers,
    d2
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    No offense, but I'm sick of people staying in XP and when I ask why, the person says "XP is far more stable than any other OS in the world".
    Too bad my school's computer lab is using Non-genuine XP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrShowdown View Post
    No offense, but I'm sick of people staying in XP and when I ask why, the person says "XP is far more stable than any other OS in the world".
    Too bad my school's computer lab is using Non-genuine XP.

    Hi there
    I didn't mention anything about the stability or otherwise of XP - my post was simply pointing out that in more cases than people actually realize staying with XP for a while could be a cheap viable option for hardware and software that still requires it and where upgrading either hardware or software or both is totally impracticable for reasons of expense or even feasibility in the short term.

    Staying with an outdated OS for the WRONG reasons is just plain BONKERS of course but there are all sorts of cases when it can be the RIGHT reason - companies will change when it suits THEM - not Ms.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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    XP will always remain a good virtual machine OS, but personally I've upgraded a long time ago. 3 laptops with Vista, 7 and 8 form older to newer.
    They all run pretty well.
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    Xp was good for my older laptop from 2003, the laptop only had 32mb gpu. It could never handle windows 7, I think xp is a good light weight OS for older hardware. I had a few laptops from 98' that only had a 4mb gpu ! and max ram was 526mb or so. Xp could be put on them but never nothing newer. Xp is a good choice for computers that can't handle newer windows, why throw them away when they can still get work done. I still have some I keep, and someday my new laptop may go down. When it does I can still use those older laptops to get internet, music, videos, until I fix it. Xp is a good backup plan, its easy to get and can run on old computers.
    But I'd never put it on a newer computer, it only has Directx 9. Most newer computers have directx 10 or 11 cards, which means you'd be wasting important graphic features by using Xp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shane88 View Post
    Xp was good for my older laptop from 2003, the laptop only had 32mb gpu. It could never handle windows 7, I think xp is a good light weight OS for older hardware. I had a few laptops from 98' that only had a 4mb gpu ! and max ram was 526mb or so. Xp could be put on them but never nothing newer. Xp is a good choice for computers that can't handle newer windows, why throw them away when they can still get work done. I still have some I keep, and someday my new laptop may go down. When it does I can still use those older laptops to get internet, music, videos, until I fix it. Xp is a good backup plan, its easy to get and can run on old computers.
    But I'd never put it on a newer computer, it only has Directx 9. Most newer computers have directx 10 or 11 cards, which means you'd be wasting important graphic features by using Xp.
    Hi there
    absolutely 100% correct -- you've obviously understood when to deploy this type of stuff -- others will never learn - and if they ever get to run a business they will end up spending 1000's of dollars when not needed.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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    My problem with XP luddites are the ones who put it on computers with 4GB or more RAM and/or with multicore CPUs; ESPECIALLY if it's installed on an SSD. Machines that are clearly going to run even better if you put 7 (or 8) on them. XP cannot use more than 3GB of RAM, it cannot efficiently use multicore CPUs, it does not have DirectX 10/11, it has a far worse graphics driver system, its audio system is antiquated and featureless, and it does not have TRIM functions to keep SSD performance optimized. I can't stand when people hold down modern, strong hardware with a 12 year old OS. It just boggles my mind.

    Because of XP's 32-bit 4GB limit, it has to share this limit with system caches and video memory. If you have a Core i7 with 8GB of RAM and you get a 2GB nvidia GTX 660+ video card, and you put Windows XP on this? You would have LESS than 2GB of RAM available, period. People actually DO THIS. Their reason? "Oh I'm used to XP. It also runs this old 1998 game I have." So you will murder an expensive, extremely powerful high end system because you're 'used to it' and because it runs ONE old game? THAT is the problem I have with XP diehards. The latter is easily taken care of in a virtual machine or some form of emulation.

    I completely understand if it's on some old slow machine using old hardware that can't be replaced. Just keep it off modern (2007+) non-netbook machines. Like others have said, it's also decent for virtualization. Some people will probably say "BUT there's a 64-bit version of XP!!!", and I will say... yeah... it's hardly supported by basically anyone. Windows XP 64-bit would be the WORST choice if you're looking for compatibility or driver support! It'd be a case of "I'm used to it" with "I get to use all my RAM", but nothing more.
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