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Windows XP is a ticking time-bomb with only 500 days to go

  1. #11


    Posts : 39
    Windows 8 Pro x64


    Lol finally some people that unstand, I've had some many arguments with people that just don't know about computers and hardware. I tried Xp 64bit once, and foind out there was no graphics driver ever made for it by Amd, big mistake. Its better to stay within the guide lines of what your computer is designed and capable of running. You can go newer, windows 7 to 8, with most computers. By please don't go from 7 to Xp on a new machine. You're selling your computer short like Lazure said.

    Older Machines = Xp (Not capable of running Vista, 7, or 8.)
    Newer Machines = Vista, 7, 8. (If you like Xp use a Virtual player like VM ware. You will be happy and still get to use your older software.)

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  2. #12


    Orbiting the Moon
    Posts : 2,975
    Windows 10 x64


    64 bit XP is one of my favorites despite the lack of drivers. It has server 2003 kernel and it's flying as a VM.

    The 64bit XP was without drivers back in 2007 when I first put it on a Vista laptop. But since then, more drivers became available, even Vista x64 drivers that worked! Then I got all drivers for it. After 3gigs of updates, it becomes too slow (crap) so that's why I prefer it in a small VM and where not all updates need to be installed. For testing environments.

    The SSD setup for XP: never tested, I don't know, some tweaks are required. We'll have to leave this setup to Win7/8.
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  3. #13


    Finally. I blame the fact that they took that long to release windows 7/vista. Windows XP was great but it didn't need to last that long. It was in use even when vista finally decided to arrive. That's one too many years. If vista was more worthwhile of an update maybe it wouldn't have been the case but unfortunately it wasn't. It took them windows 7 for people to even think about upgrading.
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  4. #14


    Posts : 39
    Windows 8 Pro x64


    Seemed like Xp lasted the longest. I guess what with Ms struggling to finish Vista. Personally I would consider still using Xp, but under the following circumstances.
    1. Directx 10 and 11 support.
    2. Updated drivers for hardware.
    3. New features like Aero and transparency.

    Theres probably more, they could of still made Xp great for modern use. If it wasn't about the money making, Ms would still support Xp. But they think if they can push people to upgrade to a new windows instead of just providing updates then that makes more money for them. Updates are free, upgrades cost money. As I remember Vista came out with directx 10, but Ms made a platform update that made vista use dirextx 11. Now if it wasn't about money then I'm sure a platform update could have been made for Xp which could make it directx 10 or 11.
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  5. #15


    Redmond
    Posts : 651
    Windows 8.1 x64


    You'll have to pardon me as this post is a bit more "general" and not directed specifically at anyone, but the last post sort of rode up my back a bit. I just do not understand people who complain that Microsoft doesn't release newer products for an OS that's over 10 years old. How many times did you pay Microsoft for XP that you feel they should hoist the entire video driver model (in your example), along with all the code to make it work, including the parts of the kernel, backwards to something people aren't paying for anymore?

    It's not a charity, and you provide features for products people are purchasing. People aren't free, and supporting old platforms is expensive (both from an engineering standpoint and a supportability standpoint). If you like older products, then by all means please use them. But this call that somehow Microsoft is greedy because they won't prop up a codebase from the 90s with technology bolted on from the 21st century is a little silly.
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  6. #16


    Posts : 39
    Windows 8 Pro x64


    Pardon me if I'm a little confused, but seeing as all these versions of windows starting from win2000 are built on NT Kernel, then isn't all of them including win 7 have the NT kernel in them. Isn't it true that these newer windows are only improved versions of the NT kernel ?

    I have no beef with Ms and why choosed to abandon Xp, frankly I could care less since I'm using windows 8 now. I was merly expressing how a company that using Xp might feel. And yes if they modernized Xp I'd try it for kicks on VM, but thats it. I am not a die hard Xp fan, and honestly I hated the 10 years stuck using it. When I got a windows 7 laptop I was more then happy to move on.
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  7. #17


    Redmond
    Posts : 651
    Windows 8.1 x64


    A small nitpick - The first NT kernel in a shipping version of Windows was NT3.1 (1993), not Windows 2000, just a point of reference. To the question, the NT base is a very fluid architecture - NT3 and Windows 8, for example, might have the "NT kernel" in common, but they're pretty different operating systems. "Improved" is a bit of an understatement - while the NT architecture is very robust and seems like it has a long life ahead of it, the kernel between NT3 and Windows 8 aren't very close cousins. Cousins, maybe, but they're not close anymore.
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  8. #18


    Posts : 5,707
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    It kind of makes me wonder about how Microsoft will be supporting their products. It's been released that they'll be supporting Windows 8 up to 2023, and the Surface RT for about 2017. Ten years for an operating system seems a little too long, much like how 7 is to be supported until 2020.

    Theoretically good and dispels any fallacies that Microsoft ditches support for their products and wants you to upgrade to the latest version; but bad in the long run as software compatibilities clash, hardware compatibilities clash, as well as OS clashes (can't connect to a HomeGroup with xp).
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  9. #19


    Posts : 39
    Windows 8 Pro x64


    The DOS based windows systems are far worse, mainly windows 98 I'm talking about. Because of the kernel being dos, instabilities occur that bring the whole system to a crash which I've went through many times.

    If you’re still using Windows 9x, you’ve probably encountered your share of unexplainable lockups and crashes. The root cause for all this instability is the fact that the Windows 9x operating system kernel is basically a cobbled together version of the prehistoric DOS operating system kernel. While DOS was a whiz kid in its heyday, it really wasn’t designed to support a graphical-based user interface or the type of multitasking that Windows 9x aspires to achieve.
    - Basically this means that Windows 9x is so busy with its juggling act that a tiny failure at any point can bring the whole operating system tumbling down.

    If you're still using the Windows 95 or Windows 98 operating system, it’s high time you consider moving on with your computer life. There are a lot better things that you can do with your computer than mess around with an ancient OS.
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  10. #20


    Posts : 142
    Windows 8 Enterprise 64-bit (7 Ult, Vista & XP in V-Box)


    Well, I still 'use' DOS 6.22/WfW 3.11 ; Win95C ; Win98SE ; Win ME ; Win XP, and Vista.

    All on my P4 2.8Ghz, except for W98SE, which is still the original factory install on a Gateway P3/800Mhz.

    Oh and Win 3.1/Office 4.5 in DOS-Box...


    They're mainly for fun and to help troubleshoot the problems of others.
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