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Personal computing in the future: of mice and keyboards

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    Personal computing in the future: of mice and keyboards


    We've all read about it at some point within the past year or two, what with the proliferation of tablets, Windows 8, etc.: "The PC is dead!" "DEATH to the mouse and keyboard!" "Anyone who prefers to use a mouse and keyboard on a PC that has anything less than the latest-and-greatest Windows 8 on it is an idiot who refuses to accept change!"

    Well, contrary to what these pundits and proclaimers seem to be pushing for, the future of computing sans mouse and keyboard sounds like an empty prospect in many ways. Why do I say that? Read on, thou who dares to question questionable progress!


    Read more at source:
    Personal computing in the future: of mice and keyboards | ZDNet

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    Well it's 30 years ( or even more) they try to make speech recognition work on PC, are we using it ?
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    I believe the keyboard will stick around for a good 50 years at least. I mean, think about password security if you're in a crowded area and you say "alligator3" to log into your email or whatever on your tablet. Not too good. Then there is what if you don't want to disturb others when typing up an essay? Unless if there's a strong push for biometric security or some such, along with being able to connect your brain to your PC to control it (last I've heard this is being worked on) the keyboard will remain. Shoot, even on Star Trek they use keyboards!

    Then there is the desktop rodent, the mouse. This is going to be gone soon, probably in 10 years, from the mainstream. Touch is proving itself pretty decently, and with more emphasis on natural and touch UI designs, the need for the mouse will be very little. Simple as that. For desktop PC gaming, probably it'll stick around for those purposes.

    And I want to comment on speech recognition on Windows. It works. Simple as that. No, not a lot of people are using, as no one probably really thought of using it since a touchpad, mouse, and keyboard work. Windows' built in speech engine is literally the most advanced on for the tablet platform both on RT and tradition x86 tablets. It's not like simple you press a button and say a generic command, it's like, you're controlling EVERYTHING with your voice. And even with built in mics on laptops, it works surprisingly well. That is when you adjust mic volume and decibel ranges. Why it hasn't been pushed for Windows to use it, I have no idea? I'm surprised it's not considering Windows 8 runs on tablets, and other phablets have speech commands, albeit crappy ones. Microsoft should had improved Speech Recognition so it's a little more refined.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Then there is the desktop rodent, the mouse. This is going to be gone soon, probably in 10 years, from the mainstream. Touch is proving itself pretty decently, and with more emphasis on natural and touch UI designs, the need for the mouse will be very little. Simple as that. For desktop PC gaming, probably it'll stick around for those purposes.
    And for those of us who don't really want to touch our monitors, sit too far back from our large displays to make touch computing comfortable or hate wiping fingerprints off our displays. I cannot stress enough how little interest I have in touch on my desktop or laptop. I'm not interested, AT ALL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Then there is the desktop rodent, the mouse. This is going to be gone soon, probably in 10 years, from the mainstream. Touch is proving itself pretty decently, and with more emphasis on natural and touch UI designs, the need for the mouse will be very little. Simple as that. For desktop PC gaming, probably it'll stick around for those purposes.
    lol, dream on, Cokie. It's going to be a long, long time before every device in a home or office has a touch screen on it or in it. And even then, good luck convincing every family member to use it exclusively. Weren't you yourself bragging up the Microsoft touch mouse?
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    pparks, for touch to work good on a Desktop, you can't use it like a normal monitor that is vertically upright and three feet away from you. This won't work ergonomically. As for smudging, you know, I kind of call BS on that. I've been checking out the touch AIO PCs at my local best buy, and I use them to play around with, other people do. I remember a month ago when a friend of mine and I went to go check them out, we spent a good amount of time with the touch AIOs. After doing some hypothetical situations with touch, I put the PC to sleep to check out the smudging on it. To my surprise, the screen wasn't too smudged up as I thought it would be. I have a feeling that because the touch AIO PCs have better cooling than a smartphone, the screen is less warm, as was the case with me. A screen that isn't warm doesn't transfer skin oils that well. Anyways...

    Now I do know that touch in mainstream use is going to take a long time. I don't refute that or call BS on it as it will take a long time for old PCs to die and for people to upgrade to a new one. There was once an article I read in a tech magazine I found from like 1996 about LCD monitor technology and how better it was overall versus CRT monitors. It said that it will take about a good decade before LCD monitors will be the mainstream and most commonly used. About 10 or years after that article, LCD monitors are the ONLY thing you can find these days, actually even years before that they were as well. The SAME will happen with touch monitors. When screen makers are building touch monitors, and they account for at least 40% of the monitors and screens they build, touch won't be blown off as a phase and be more something to be afraid of....

    And yes alphanumeric, I do brag about using my Microsoft Touch Mouse. Why? It's a touch gestured mouse, of course! With Windows 7, a quick swipe of two fingers snaps a window left, and then you can snap another window to the right. Three finger gesture and open up a window picker or show the Desktop. In Windows 8, those same gestures can be used if you'd like, or you can use those to do new things. Left two finger gesture left brings up the charms, right switches apps. Three finger gesture can be used as middle click (pretty tricky to do, I don't use it) or bring up the app command bar. Touch gesturing is a step away from full on touch. Companies like Logitech know this as that's why they're offering new touch gesture mice and input devices for Windows 8. Instead of ditching your newish LCD monitor that works fine for a touch monitor, you don't have to. If you want to upgrade any bit of hardware of Windows 8, upgrade your mouse to a touch enabled mouse or pad. Which is nice considering Windows 8 is light on system resource, the normal consideration of more RAM or a new graphics card and such isn't something of consideration anymore, the consideration is more for upgrading input devices.

    Personally, with a touch screen monitor and speech recognition going, I honestly might ditch using it. I'll keep though as it's pretty and the box is pretty too.
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    I don't think mouse and keyboard will go away. We might just use the mouse in the form of a trackpad or something. Although something that is extremely precise will need a mouse or a touch pen? I wouldn't use my fingers or touch to design something unless I had a huge screen touch is for more basic things at least that's how I feel. I've been using an trackpad I like it but I haven't tried it on a desktop only on a laptop so it's hard to say if the feeling will transfer over. At the very least I think we still need a touch pen or something. I don't know if I could use my fingers to do precise work unless I'm actually building something physical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Then there is the desktop rodent, the mouse. This is going to be gone soon, probably in 10 years, from the mainstream. Touch is proving itself pretty decently, and with more emphasis on natural and touch UI designs, the need for the mouse will be very little. Simple as that. For desktop PC gaming, probably it'll stick around for those purposes.
    And for those of us who don't really want to touch our monitors, sit too far back from our large displays to make touch computing comfortable or hate wiping fingerprints off our displays. I cannot stress enough how little interest I have in touch on my desktop or laptop. I'm not interested, AT ALL.

    My sentiments exactly.

    My mouse and keyboard won't be going ANYWHERE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tseven View Post
    I don't think mouse and keyboard will go away. We might just use the mouse in the form of a trackpad or something. Although something that is extremely precise will need a mouse or a touch pen? I wouldn't use my fingers or touch to design something unless I had a huge screen touch is for more basic things at least that's how I feel. I've been using an trackpad I like it but I haven't tried it on a desktop only on a laptop so it's hard to say if the feeling will transfer over. At the very least I think we still need a touch pen or something. I don't know if I could use my fingers to do precise work unless I'm actually building something physical.
    One will need a stylus, preferably a setup from Wacom, for design. I friend recently got a Wacom Bamboo drawing tablet which she proclaimed is the future...
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    I absolutely do NOT want a touch-screen. Sitting with my gamer-desktop PC and a 24" monitor, I don't want to swing my arms around the screen, tilting coffee-cups, plates, kids and whatever else being too close.
    Gamer mouse and a good gamer keyboard, a fast Windows (8??) without Metro. At my PC I don't want to use phone"movements" to control.
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