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MS new "Secure Boot" locked BIOS arrives

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    MS new "Secure Boot" locked BIOS arrives


    Co-posted at SevenForums:


    Whether you plan on using Windows 8 or not, everyone buying a PC in the future will end up with the Microsoft-driven Secure Boot feature enabled. Secure Boot prevents “unauthorized” operating systems and software from loading during the startup process.
    Secure Boot is a feature enabled by UEFI – which replaces the traditional PC BIOS – but Microsoft mandates specific implementations for x86 (Intel) and ARM PCs. Any computer with a Windows 8 logo sticker has Secure Boot enabled.
    HTG Explains: How Windows 8′s Secure Boot Feature Works & What It Means for Linux - How-To Geek

    Microsoft Secure Boot Could Ban Windows From PCs | Wired Enterprise | Wired.com

    https://www.eightforums.com/general-d...lock-bios.html


    Our first Secure Boot case wishing to replace Win8 with Windows 7 has arrived:
    cant install windows 7 in the preinstalled windows 8 laptop - Windows 7 Forums.
    Solved quickly bypassing EFI.

    UPDATE: This great new tutorial by Theog shows how to turn off Secure Boot to install another OS: Downgrade Windows 8 to Windows 7
    Last edited by gregrocker; 17 Nov 2012 at 17:38.

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    Posts : 142
    Windows 8 Enterprise 64-bit (7 Ult, Vista & XP in V-Box)


    Personally, I do not believe that either Microsoft OR the OEMs should be legally allowed to do this.

    I find it to be completely unacceptable.

    If that's going to be the future of computing, I want no part of it.
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    It seems like they're already backing down.

    Ive also heard that in past years there were locked BIOS but these seem to have disappeared after being sanctioned by courts as impinging on the hardware owners right to do what they want with their property. In fact OEM's have been compelled by courts to honor their PC hardware warranty even if an owner clean reinstalls, although they will often refuse to tech support it without the pre-install (just tell them you have it).

    I've been searching all day for cases where users bypassed the actual WIndows 8 Secure Boot, which hopefully is as simply as bypassing EFI to install normally. I think the first one just arrived today at 7F.
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    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Meh.

    I'm not too concerned. As long as I can take a Windows 8 PC with Secure Boot and upgrade (or do a clean install ) to Windows 9 and 10, I don't see a problem.
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    Win8.1 Pro, Desktop Mode


    More arrogance from pinhead central.
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    Windows 8.1 x64


    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Meh.

    I'm not too concerned. As long as I can take a Windows 8 PC with Secure Boot and upgrade (or do a clean install ) to Windows 9 and 10, I don't see a problem.
    You've completely missed the point
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    Not a problem.

    Set BIOS to Secure Boot.

    Clean Install:
    UEFI (Unified Extensible Firmware Interface) - Install Windows 8 with

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    Downloadgrade Install:
    Reset BIOS to default
    Reboot to BIOS make Secure Boot is disabled
    UEFI (Unified Extensible Firmware Interface) - Install Windows 7 with - Windows 7 Forums

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    Delete all partitions.

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    Remake partitions.

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    ReClean Installed:
    UEFI (Unified Extensible Firmware Interface) - Install Windows 8 with

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golden View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Meh.

    I'm not too concerned. As long as I can take a Windows 8 PC with Secure Boot and upgrade (or do a clean install ) to Windows 9 and 10, I don't see a problem.
    You've completely missed the point
    I honestly don't see the big issue. You can't install Linux or Windows 7 over 8? See, in the land of normal tech consuming people, no one really cares. As long as it works and it works good, everything is fine and dandy. I guess the only problem is that if you're a tech head and want to use Linux or install 7 over 8 (why?!) this probably might pose an issue.
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    Windows 8 Enterprise 64-bit (7 Ult, Vista & XP in V-Box)


    And I STILL don't want this garbage anywhere NEAR my systems.

    The whole concept is flawed and offensive, and gives me NO benefit WHATSOEVER.

    It's an attempt to lock us in, nothing more.

    Its claimed advantages are nebulous at best.

    And I'll bet the next generation of hardware WILL have it locked.

    That'll be the day I go Linux, or simply smash the computer and walk away.
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