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Windows head Steven Sinofsky leaves Microsoft

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    LOL, I tough first you change your wife........ that's it, I always like when MS release a new OS to have something new, Apple is also another way to change ( all true, personally it's not that much interesting, it's hard to OC a Mac, lol )

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    From Brink's story:
    The claim was that he had alienated most of Microsoft’s senior leadership, if not the bulk of the executive staff.
    Man, did anyone like this guy? How could he have advanced so high with everyone in his wake quitting and/or ticked off?
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    I take him a hard-nosed boss with a brilliant mind. He has a reputation to create cutting edge products on time, namely 7 and 8. Come up with a plan, execute the plan, and get it out the door on time. No pussyfooting around. I didn't care for bosses like that, but they were right.

    Don't forget that MS has made more millionaires than any other company on the planet. I would assume he had enough to leave for retirement.
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    Hi there
    C'mon guys
    We are all 'Corporate Wh---s' at heart. If someone offers us a decent job at a high rate of pay would we refuse it. --Think not these days.

    However in the corporate world - especially at the top levels people come and people go.

    Ms has survived quite decently without Bill Gates at its helm.

    Apple is in SERIOUS problems without anybody decent to replace Steve Jobs.

    Kodak have gone down like a leaky sieve because they couldn't understand DIGITAL PHOTOGRAPHY was the future.

    We shall see what we shall see -- but MS isn't going bust anytime soon and the new bod might be "just what the doctor ordered".

    However what gets really in the craw about these replacements is the OBSCENE amounts of money these guys get - especially when it seems like "Rewards for Failure".

    Any UK Guys here -- I like the BBC --I use its web site daily and love the sport on BBC R5 Live or Sports Extra - world wide on the Internet ( Tune in via Tunein TuneIn: Listen to Online Radio, Music and Talk Stations works on mobiles too !!)- but how do people justify paying a guy ONE YEAR'S salary (450,000 GBP approx. / 640. 000 USD) to the last director general of the BBC when he was about to get FIRED and had only been in the post for 50 days !!!

    I think the US is better here --if you Fire a guy he doesn't normally walk away with A YEAR'S Salary.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Travis View Post
    From Brink's story:
    The claim was that he had alienated most of Microsoft’s senior leadership, if not the bulk of the executive staff.
    Man, did anyone like this guy? How could he have advanced so high with everyone in his wake quitting and/or ticked off?
    because he was the guy that put the screws to the employees to get a product out. In Microsoft's past, they had a ton of guys doing R&D. working with their own projects. showing off all the "ooh, ahh" things they were working on. and then no product gets released.

    in fact, the reason the OS that eventually became Windows Vista was extremely ambitious but it had technologies that were way over their heads and not even close for a mass production OS. so after realizing that the OS wasn't going to make it, they scrapped their original intentions for Vista and started completely over. that's why XP was around for so long. they started all over on Vista and went with much simpler goals. but because they started all over, they were suddenly way way way behind. so Vista was released very late and rough.

    So Sinofsky, with a reputation of getting things done and with a great track record with Office, was brought in to make sure Windows 7 met the deadlines and would be out in time.

    He wasn't brought in because Vista was bad. He was brought in to clean house and make sure nothing like Vista's development would happen again. That they had to set realistic goals for what could be accomplished and to execute. He would rather take away features than implement features that didn't work. A lot of his Office guys and Windows guys would get mad that he would cut out features that they wanted to include, but those features didn't make deadlines which was key.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    - but how do people justify paying a guy ONE YEAR'S salary (450,000 GBP approx. / 640. 000 USD) to the last director general of the BBC when he was about to get FIRED and had only been in the post for 50 days !!!

    I think the US is better here --if you Fire a guy he doesn't normally walk away with A YEAR'S Salary.
    :thumbup:

    Because he's a more experienced corporate w____??

    U.S. is probably better, for it's nothing for these top execs to make $10-30 mil a year. Even after a year, I don't think they give a rat's ass. I mean, who could possibly be worth that much?!!

    @dirtyvu. :thumbup:
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    Yeah, I was about to say, Sinofsky RESIGNED. There is no mention anywhere of him being fired, but although the announcement broke late Monday evening which doesn't make it seem like a planned announcement. I'm starting to think it's because he realized he's (YEAH!! A WINDOWS PHONE COMMERCIAL IS ON TV!!) not the next CEO for Microsoft at least for a LONG time, as Ballmer has said he won't step down until his kids are all in college.

    But then again, Sinofsky probably left out of frustration because his Windows division has Xbox services baked in, Bing services as well, and it's known for a while now that he is NOT very keen on anything diminishing Windows, as theoretically that might diminish his power or authority. I bet Ballmer was planning on firing him as he is known to be a pain in the groin to work with, and that isn't something Microsoft needs right now; it needs every division working together in harmony and providing a seamless user experience across disparate platforms. Whoever obstructs their new goal has to be taken out of the way.

    I see Sinofsky as someone who is rather intelligent, sharp mind, but with a serious attitude and control issues. The descriptions of him sound A LOT like how steve jobs ran apple: take no crap from anyone, work everyone to their limit, and it's his way or no way.

    And I agree jimbo, apple might end up like Microsoft a decade ago. They're in trouble and the whispers that were going around this past summer about apple not being all it's hyped up to be have turned into speculation. Speculation causes fear with investors, loss of investors causes lower stock prices, eventually lower profit revenues. They will stay around, but will just be another brand name that has more connotation to it than others.
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    I've worked with a number of people over the years who all "resigned" when they were called into the office and handed their resignation letter and a severance package.
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    I don't think any of us know exactly what happened there.

    Haven't you ever heard of people being asked to resign. Amounts to the same thing. Saves face for the one who goes - and paperwork for the company.
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