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What Microsoft should have done

  1. #41


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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Travis View Post
    I'm not totally against this stuff, Cokie. The idea of using the cloud as a backup I think is a great idea. But your own media = your responsibility. Leaving it up to Cloudies makes you 100% dependent on them. Not a fan of that. Thing is, with all these teenie tiny devices there's going to be a lot more Cloudies handling your stuff. I don't know what you can do to change that. Can't think of anything off the top of my head. Might be screwed. Oh well.
    Thinking about this, (was going to post last this last night but an issue screwed up the web page and I went to bed) the decision of the person choosing to store all their files onto a cloud server is RIGHT IN ITSELF that person's decision and responsibility for doing such. Your cloud server is down? Your fault for not having a physical copy. Just imagine a situation, you're giving a PowerPoint presentation at work, and you can't access it because SkyDrive or whatever is down. The boss looks at you says, "Well, why didn't you make a physical copy of it?"

    I don't believe in the cloud as the one and only thing to solve backup issues, I believe in the "all the above" method. Back then, if you were doing a master thesis, you would make copies and backups and backups to your backups on floppies or even CDs. Nowadays, you can use a flash drive, someone else's flash, PC, or external hard drive or even their email, your PC, an external drive, NAS, cloud storage, email, CDs, DVDs, even floppy drives. If you know what you're doing and have the hardware, going to the extreme, making tape backups of said master thesis paper. The cloud is just one solution out of many. I personally know a few people that have lost their digital tax documents that were on their hard drive on year, lost the next year on an external hard drive, and now they're using a cloud service.

    It's about finding the right balance and the ideal solution of cloud and local storage.

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  2. #42


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    Quote Originally Posted by area 66 View Post
    If you have so much problem with your data Coke, may be it's time you install something like WHS 2011, it back up twice a day your stuff, restore a PC with a HD failure is a walk in the park with WHS 2011, put a new drive, a cd and you let the server do the rest.
    I'll probably consider that as when I have my two RAID 5 or 10 arrays going sometime early next year, I'll be making backups of my SSD and using a VM mirror of my system to test software with before I do anything for sure.

    I think I might actually use an external hard drive or just a bare 2.5" hard drive to back up my vital statistics. I was even pondering using tape backups, but that's too extreme and not ideal.

    But then there's the fact that I could lose about 12-16 TERABYTES, of media between two RAID arrays.......
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  3. #43


    Quote Originally Posted by tcman50 View Post
    Oh well, I guess for $40 I can't complain too much.
    $40 + the loss of XP, Vista or W7.
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  4. #44


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    Well maybe the marketing works on many but for me I am insulted and it seems patronizing to force the metro apps nonsense on us without the ability to simply let the user select which GUI to boot to at start up.

    I'm not totally against the cloud but I have very little trust in it, like many others have mentioned before, who controls this information, how secure is it, and what happens when that information in cloudville is unavailable due to any number of problems from a brief temporary loss for hours or the permanent loss of that data entirely! If MS and others try and force us to not keep data localized I will be looking elsewhere for an OS.
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  5. #45


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    Quote Originally Posted by legacy7955 View Post
    Well maybe the marketing works on many but for me I am insulted and it seems patronizing to force the metro apps nonsense on us without the ability to simply let the user select which GUI to boot to at start up.
    exactly I will even add they should even let the users decide if they want install the Metro thing giving 2 choices

    1- Classic start menu
    2- New Start Page ( they have to try to make it look better , lol )

    so everyone will have what they want , of course some fafan ( the way we call fanboy here) will come and say it's not a great idea to give peoples a choice

    Windows 8 is all about choices.... would not have been a nice ad ?
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  6. #46


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    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    Yes, because it implies Apple is not.

    I think that would resonate.
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  7. #47


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    Is it really that much of a hassle to click, "Desktop"? I mean really?
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  8. #48


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    Quote Originally Posted by machare View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by tcman50 View Post
    Oh well, I guess for $40 I can't complain too much.
    $40 + the loss of XP, Vista or W7.
    Oh, installing the "upgrade" deactivates the license that made one eligible for it? I never thought about it, but it makes sense, and it makes me LOL.

    ETA: Seriously, how does this work? Is it truly a one-way move? Or can you forswear Windows 8 somehow and go back to your prior OS, including activating it?
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  9. #49


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    It doesn't deactivate anything.

    You are supposed to do that.

    There's nothing to stop you personally getting rid of win8 and reinstalling the previous o/s .

    Too difficult for the average user - they won't have the install media , or system images.
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  10. #50


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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    It doesn't deactivate anything.

    You are supposed to do that.

    There's nothing to stop you personally getting rid of win8 and reinstalling the previous o/s .
    To be clear, will Microsoft activate the old OS? For example, could someone running a full copy of Windows 7 upgrade to Windows 8 and install and activate their Windows 7 on another PC? If the answer is no, then how do they get Microsoft to revoke the activation of the Windows 8 installation so that they can do this? This would also be necessary if they were wiping the upgrade machine and just going back to the prior OS.
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