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What Microsoft should have done

  1. #31


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    If you have so much problem with your data Coke, may be it's time you install something like WHS 2011, it back up twice a day your stuff, restore a PC with a HD failure is a walk in the park with WHS 2011, put a new drive, a cd and you let the server do the rest.

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  2. #32


    Southern California
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    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center x64


    Quote Originally Posted by R0bR View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DustSailor View Post
    ^ Hold up mate, I don't think he was saying people get stupid when they use the cloud; he was talking about the people who are not interested in using the cloud. He is saying they are slowly being led into it, unknowingly.

    I don't like being led somewhere I don't want to go. Some people don't like the cloud, including me.
    I'll break some news to you...If you ever used AOL in the day, you were in the cloud. If you do online banking, you were in the cloud. If you use Hotmail, Gmail, Yahoo mail etc, you are in the cloud. If you bought any Apps on your iPhone, Android or WP, you are in the cloud. If you use debit cards or credit cards to buy anything, you're in the cloud. Cloud services are everywhere and have been for a number of years, it didn't just start with Windows 8.

    It's one thing to raise valid points and concerns about "the cloud" in it's even more widening use across ALL technologies, but to consistently repeat about it as a main issue with Windows 8 and Microsoft is ignorance.
    Only ever used online banking, Hotmail, and debit/credit cards, none of the others. Any fault on my bank's end, and I am reimbursed. Any criminal activity on my account, I call in and stop it, and am reimbursed. Hotmail isn't used for anything that my identity would depend upon, etc.

    The point is, these services have weaknesses. People hack into banks all the time. Same with Hotmail. Why would I want more of this?

    Not only that, but as was mentioned, sometimes the internet goes out. I can't do half the things I would like. If I had a cloud computer, I'm screwed. Top it off with my ISP sucks eggs, so this is frequent. Do you think adding more bandwidth-consuming people to the cloud will slow this trend? nuh-uh. It would just make my ISP have to respond to more demand. Can they meet that demand? It doesn't look like it from where I'm sitting.

    If it can be helped, I would prefer not being led more into the cloud. I could care less about how it is spreading to more and more technology and I should 'get with the times', etc. I can only hope one such as you can see my points as "valid" now. Security and connectivity. What more can you want? What is the harm in keeping things local? HDDs are inexpensive and DON'T cost a monthly fee. Hell yea! My only concern is people like you pushing this cloud tech along somewhere I don't want to go.

    Sorry that I didn't feel the need to post my 'reasons' before. I thought they were already out there

    PS just as a cloud-based server backs up your data, so can I at home, cloudless
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  3. #33


    Adelaide
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    Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Linux Mint 17.1 MATE (64 bit)

    The "Cloud"


    Isn't the power still out in New Jersey?
    So if you live in Nevada and your "Cloud" provider is in, or managed from (let's say) New Jersey you would be SOOL.
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  4. #34


    Posts : 1,308
    Windows 8 enterprise x64


    Look what happen to Go Daddy in September, Anonymous claim it, but CEO said it was an Internal problem, in both case it's not acceptable, it was supposed to be 99.99% reliable, this is only 5 minutes down a year not 6 hours. If you are a home users this is not a big deal, but if you run a pharmacy and you customers files are on the cloud , you are in deep $h....t at least here in Quebec as the government pay a large part of the medicine, no files no free pills, no prescription on files, no pills
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  5. #35


    Posts : 99
    Windows 8.1 Professional x64


    Don't get what the fuss is about. The Desktop is practically identical to 7's. The Start screen can be avoided 99% of the time after some customization. Looking for installed applications is easy.

    Just sounds like some conspiracy theorists in this thread to me. MS isn't going to get you. Even if MS gets out of hand, Linux will always be there. There is an out if you want one.
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  6. #36


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    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    Kind of proves the point.

    I fear a lot of people won't get it, even after it has been explained.
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  7. #37


    Posts : 99
    Windows 8.1 Professional x64


    Yes, Marketing. Desensitizing us to the point where we won't mind using whatever new things they decide to change in future iterations. Meh, if there's something I really dislike, I'll find a way to disable it. If there is no way, I'll switch back or use Linux. It's not a huge deal. Windows 8 performs better than 7, even without an internet connection and you just want to play games/type up documents/whatever. Apps can be completely disabled and unused 100% of the time. You can just clear that start screen up and just use the All Apps menu if it sucks so bad (or classic shell).

    Yes, basic consumers won't likely do those things and just change with the times. Mind explaining how this is so horrible?
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  8. #38


    Posts : 534
    Windows 7, Windows 8 RP


    Quote Originally Posted by DustSailor View Post
    My only concern is people like you pushing this cloud tech along somewhere I don't want to go.
    Me? Pushing cloud services? LOL. If you read back you'll see that I was responding to SIW2's comment and you jumped in and responded. I wasn't pushing anything, I was just telling you that you've been using them for years. I just don't see how you're being led to using cloud services in Windows 8 just because it facilitates connecting to those services that already exist. You have the choice whether or not you want to use them.
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  9. #39


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    Windows 8 enterprise x64


    I use Email for years, but what MS is dreaming is to rent us service; OS, Apps and Storage will be all on their Servers, they will sell or rent a Cloud terminal without the possibility for us to install anything else than their stuff, this is the CLOUD we are talking about and this is the CLOUD we don't want. They already start with the Metro apps, only available from them , and they get a 25% from it, if it get popular and they have the big share of the market they will get 30, 40 5%, they will not stop.

    Just look at the new BIOS they use the BIOS to activate Windows 8 , at first MS want more, they want the company use a BIOS to not only look pirated Windows to run, but any other thing than Windows, at first they want manufacturers to remove us the possibility to install Linux, and if the manufacturers will have not install those kind of BIOS well Windows will have not be available on such PC....good thing peoples complain and MS come back , of course they was afraid of an antitrust action from the US gov.
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  10. #40


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    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by area 66 View Post

    Just look at the new BIOS they use the BIOS to activate Windows 8 , at first MS want more, they want the company use a BIOS to not only look pirated Windows to run, but any other thing than Windows, at first they want manufacturers to remove us the possibility to install Linux, and if the manufacturers will have not install those kind of BIOS well Windows will have not be available on such PC....good thing peoples complain and MS come back , of course they was afraid of an antitrust action from the US gov.
    This is mostly due to the fact that the most common way to pirate Windows 7 was using a BIOS SLIC? hack that tricked Windows into thinking it was activated. That, along with Microsoft's surprisingly lenient attitude towards pirated copies of Windows 7 (mostly because as long as 7 was replacing an elder version of Windows, this must had been OK with them for the time being) that they don't want to carry out with 8. And I think the Linux issue with secure UEFI boot was solved a bit ago, I'm not sure though.
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