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Windows 8: Do you need it?

  1. #41


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    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    I've read that on average battery life, on a new laptop with Windows 7 and 8, Windows 8 will add about 30-45 minutes to.
    I have read this too, but until I can see it for myself and quantify the difference, I will remain skeptical.

    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    But in real world comparison, 8 just feels faster and snappier.
    I think a lot of claims of speed are based on the gut feeling of "it just feels snappier". I am often scoffed at for my claims of not noticing speed improvements outside of bootups, but when I ask others if they did time test with stopwatches or other devices (like i have) they always say no. Then you find they compare an older load of Windows 7 with tons of cruft, to a new machine with new hardware and a fresh load and say, "Wow, look at how much faster it is". Really, it's faster!...this surprises them? It's faster hardware and a fresh load.

    I on the other hand, take 2 identical machines from work inventory, fresh load Windows 7 on one and Windows 8 on the other and test and I see very little difference. No doubt bootups and shutdowns are faster. But for most other things, I challenge others to prove to me it's faster....i've got my conclusive proof saying time difference is negligible.
    I do believe there are performance charts comparing 7 to 8. Windows 8 edges out 7, one of the things I can say it WAY better than 7 is thumbnail preview generation. In 7, it would take about 30 seconds or so to get a whole screen or two of thumbnails generated. In 8, it's like cut in half. This is hugely important if you're a photo editor as you don't wait so long to see what image you need. This is one of quite a few. Check some old blog posts on Microsoft's Building Windows 8 blog, there is on in particular that compared media management between 7 and 8.

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  2. #42


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    Windows 8.1 Pro x64/ Windows 7 Ult x64


    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    Please do not take this wrong if you are not going to upgrade to 8 or for that matter 7. With the strokes that have caused a decrease in my ability to comprehend even the smallest of things at times I still cannot understand why if someone is not going to use 8 (or whatever) they find the need to join a forum that is designed around a specific OS.

    This has been one of the things that really gives my broken down old brain fits. . .
    That's a good point Lee, I've wondered that myself.

    Some of the people that oppose Windows 8, I think, really want to be persuaded to use it, or actually dislike a couple features and want to get them changed.
    People with a passionate dislike for Windows 8 seem to be surprised and even upset that some members actually like it, IMHO this should not be a surprise at all as this is a Windows 8 forum.
    Some just like a spirited debate.

    In the end, everyone has the choice which OS they will use, there are a large number of people still using a 10+ year old OS. That is their choice, as it obviously is, and shouldn't be a problem for anyone.
    If you come to a Windows 8 forum, expect some members to like it.
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  3. #43


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    windows 7


    i am from canada,for me to be able to pay and download windows 8, it has to be 12:01 am right?
    everytime i try the upgrade adviosr it just gives me errors at check out
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  4. #44


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    Windows 8.1 Pro x64/ Windows 7 Ult x64


    I haven't found the AM/PM clarification, at the MS event it was said 12:01 local time, previously local time means Redmond time, Pacific Time. So it will depend on your time zone.

    I'm hoping they mean AM instead of noon.
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  5. #45


    Germany/Florida
    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7


    In 7, it would take about 30 seconds or so to get a whole screen or two of thumbnails generated. In 8, it's like cut in half
    Isn't that a function of the GPU ?? With my on-board graphics on the laptop it takes some time. With the super duper graphics card on my desktop it is instant.
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  6. #46


    Germany/Florida
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    Vista and Win7


    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    Please do not take this wrong if you are not going to upgrade to 8 or for that matter 7. With the strokes that have caused a decrease in my ability to comprehend even the smallest of things at times I still cannot understand why if someone is not going to use 8 (or whatever) they find the need to join a forum that is designed around a specific OS.

    This has been one of the things that really gives my broken down old brain fits. . .
    That sounds like a good reason. Maybe I get a copy of /8 just for that and run it on my surplus laptop.
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  7. #47


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    Windows 7 64-bit


    Don't get me wrong, I do have 8 installed (I've got a dual boot machine). I do like that it's faster than 7 in transferring files and other basic OS things (and no, UI theme is not a basic OS thing in my humble opinion). But, do I really need it? No. Have I ever used a Metro app? No. I have not heard of any Metro app that would be useful for work and that would do something that no Desktop program does.

    By this I mean that I have not found any one feature in 8 that does not exist in 7 already. Therefore I find no need to switch over. I do turn 8 on if I need to transfer lots of files. Of course, one could say that same about XP. From a strictly user perception, as long as you have all hardware drivers in order, XP is not much different. However, newer hardware might be hard to support and newer software might not support XP either. That's basically the reason to use 7. For 8 there is no such reason - 7 is still young and universally supported.

    In other words - how you run your computer is determined by your particular needs (work, games, whatever). That determines the software that you run (basically, if you need Final Cut Pro - you run a Mac, if you need Origin and Lab Talk, you run Windows, etc). Next comes your taste and eye candy. After that - does it really matter what OS do you have? Thus it's not clear to me what's the point of releasing a new OS every 3 years.
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  8. #48


    Australia
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    Windows 7 Ult Reatil & Win 8 Pro OEM


    Aside from the obvious live tile apps updates, if you don't use these, the thing I can't understand is why people who run W8 in it's native state, and use both 'Metro' and desktop, would prefer that over a system where you can have it all on desktop, with no need to constantly navigate backwards and forwards between Metro and desktop.

    This is how I use desktop in W8, using Ex7ForW8 hacked Orb start menu, which basically imports the W7 start menu on installation by taking files from the W7 installation disk.

    • For frequently used items, desktop shortcuts replace Metro tiles in a much more condensed space without needing to minimize everything. These can include email, browser, weather, news, skype, facebook, etc.
    • And there's room to pin stuff to bottom task bar if really needed. I don't pin because I often have multiple windows open and the bottom task bar gets over crowded.
    • For less frequently used items I have 6 or 7 items in the jump start menu.
    • Seldom used items are in 'All programs', neatly arranged in alphabetical order; and out of sight yet easily accessible when needed. Even when the desktop is completely covered with open windows and all shortcuts invisible. Also use Desktop toolbar in that scenario.
    • I can send shortcuts to the desktop from various items in 'All programs'.
    • I can also include shortcuts to optical drives, eSATA drives, external USB drives, XP Virual, etc.


    Putting aside the question of personal preferences, from the point of view of pure logistics, it's all there in one desktop. So why use two windows?
    Last edited by Mustang; 30 Oct 2012 at 01:33.
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  9. #49


    Australia
    Posts : 8
    Windows 8 Pro


    Yes, I need it. I can't go back to Windows 7 because it's too slow. Windows 8 is lightning fast by comparison.
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  10. #50


    Germany/Florida
    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7


    Quote Originally Posted by Panoid View Post
    Yes, I need it. I can't go back to Windows 7 because it's too slow. Windows 8 is lightning fast by comparison.
    Hmm, that's interesting. I did not notice much of a performance difference.
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