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5 big reasons businesses should consider Windows 8

  1. #31


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    I do not see the majority of businesses going for 8 under any circumstance.
    As for win 9, I fully expect to see an option to install desktop built in.

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  2. #32


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    I asked my wife, who's laptop was upgraded this past weekend at work from XP to 7, to ask the IT people why it was decided to skip 8. The response was that 8 was better suited for devices and tablets. Is that fair? Maybe not. But perception is reality. Just like a story from NBC today where an exec said flat-out:

    There is really no additional business functionality that Windows 8 gives you that I see.
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  3. #33


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    I don't know about all that.. There are things that can be useful, such as Windows 8 To Go, could be very beneficial if it is designed right and works right for the business and I think it will be over looked as troublesome or too much work to put into trying it. Could be a big thing to miss for some companies.

    Not to mention the security improvements. Someone didn't do their home Work before speaking.

    But I also think that there is a lot of nay-sayers as there always is with a new OS from MS.
    There is a recent artical that they took all the comments about Win8 and then said they were talking about XP, cause they are the same things everyone said about XP before it launched. So, it will all depend on the messages that get out and how the consumer embraces it. I think at this point, it's a disadvantage to all to write off Win8 before giving it a serious look. And I do mean more than a few minutes or day or 2. XP was the same way.
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  5. #35


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    That's interesting, Guy. If you're talking turmoil in general, sure. But here's the difference - the first two examples (95 and 98) have to do with MS itself, not the OS. Everyone was jumping down their throat for IE, they were sued in Europe, here, etc. The the XP example is about the timing of 9/11 and recession - which MS had no control over. Again, people weren't fuming over XP.

    Vista is the only real, recent comparison we have with 8. But even that isn't the same because with 8 it really comes down to taste, instead of problems with the OS itself (that we know of).
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  6. #36


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    Travis, i have been an IT professional since about 98, and a professional hobbyist since 91.
    I can tell you without a doubt that in the IT world,, it was all talk about switching to Linux, and keeping Win2000 till the day I die.
    Then WinMe came out and people saw how bad it was and crapped all over MS saying this was the death of MS, they can't recover from this.

    Dates have changed, but seriously, the story hasn't by much.
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  7. #37


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    Tepid - I just said a couple posts back I couldn't wait to dump ME. Who liked that one? I don't know anyone. What did you say about XP when it came out? That it was crap? Did you think 7 was crap? I've been using Windows as long as you have, the reaction to all these releases hasn't been the same. That's the point I'm arguing here - not that MS is about to go down the tubes. Yes, THAT prediction comes around about every 5 minutes. I'm talking strictly about the OS.
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  8. #38


    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Travis View Post
    I asked my wife, who's laptop was upgraded this past weekend at work from XP to 7, to ask the IT people why it was decided to skip 8. The response was that 8 was better suited for devices and tablets. Is that fair? Maybe not. But perception is reality. Just like a story from NBC today where an exec said flat-out:

    There is really no additional business functionality that Windows 8 gives you that I see.
    That's how I feel. That's how my company feels. We purposely did NOT renew an enterprise agreement with MS because it was too costly and we saw nowhere near enough advantages of Windows 8 and Office 2013 to justify the cost of Software Assurance on our existing agreement. We now have to wait at least 3 years to get an enterprise agreement, or else we would end up spending more than we would have spent keeping the agreement current.

    If we need Windows 8 on something, we have MSDN and we can buy OEM licenses with our hardware from Dell or HP for those 1 offs.

    Perception is everything. Many still think that Vista is absolutely flat out awful. It wasn't great at first, improved greatly after SP1, but many don't give it the time of day.
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  9. #39


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    I should add that my wife's company employs 76,000 people. Last I checked, there aren't even 1,000 companies in America that employ that many, so this case is not gonna match up exactly to other businesses because the vast majority of other businesses employ less than 499 people. The scale of costs doesn't match up. But that doesn't mean the costs don't matter.

    $40 for an OS upgrade? That's an incredible price. Beyond incredible, really. But that's just me talking, and all I have to worry about is me. A business has to worry about a lot more, and like pparks1 said, is the cost of upgrading to 8 worth it, considering you're really not getting THAT much more vs. 7? I'm not saying the improvements aren't nice. They are nice (minus the 2nd grade colored blocks part ). I'm saying you have to weigh all the costs vs. all the benefits - and the costs aren't limited to how much you pay for the contract.

    Today my wife found out that her laptop doesn't pick up the internet at home when she works from home. So we spent four hours trying to figure out what the deal was and fixing the problem. Turns out that when they upgraded to 7, they also upgraded some encryption stuff on the laptop that only works with IPv6. Hells bells, they never told her that until after the fact, which meant we had to get a new router. We're on Verizon and they just started rolling out residential IPv6, and luckily we're among the 10% of their customers who are able to upgrade to a router that can use it. Double luckily, we could pick up the new router five minutes from the house and not an hour across town. Triple luckily they upgraded our internet service to super quadruple incredible blazing fast for free. Some people at my wife's company work from home every day and have to mail in their laptop for an upgrade. What if it comes back days later and you find out - oops, you need a new router and oops, you don't live in an area that has IPv6 router service yet. Multiply that by dozens or hundreds or even thousands of workers - you've got major FUBAR. If you're upgrading to 8, add training and all the calls to IT - I don't understand what's going on, blah, blah, blah from people who have no clue what to do. Call them idiots, whatever, that doesn't help solve their problems. Solving their problems costs time and money and it will take a lot longer than four hours to fix, and if I ran a business I would say - you know, I can deal with this stuff myself but do I really need to deal with the $#!%-storm that would hit us if we implement this thing?
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  10. #40


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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Travis View Post
    If you're upgrading to 8, add training
    Yes.

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