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Study says 1/2 as many companies plan to adopt Windows 8 compared to 7

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    Study says 1/2 as many companies plan to adopt Windows 8 compared to 7


    According to a Wall Street Journal report based on findings from Forrester Research, only 33 percent of companies plan or expect to transition to Windows 8 at some point, with 10 percent planning to skip it and 47 percent saying they haven't yet considered the new OS. Compared to the same questions asked at the same time before Windows 7's launch in 2009, 66 percent expected to transition, while only 27 percent hadn't looked yet and 1 percent planned to skip
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    We let our MS enteprise agreement on desktops expire...thus we anen't entitled to run Windows 8...we are only allowed to go to Windows 7 and Office 2010. Our management came down and said last week that we aren't moving anybody to Windows 8 as we aren't licensed for it and we aren't going to pay for it as it doesn't provide enough benefits to cover the costs.

    So, there you have it. No Windows 8 for our users.
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    I find it interesting that the number is 33 percent of the enterprise will be going to it. I thought it would be lower considering many have gone or are going to 7. My bet is xp machines are being chucked out or updated, and/or tablets might be used in conjunction with Windows 7.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    My bet is xp machines are being chucked out or updated, and/or tablets might be used in conjunction with Windows 7.
    If enterprises are still using XP, it's most likely because they are also dependent upon some older applications that don't work right on the newer machines. Some of these older apps may no longer be developed, so updates aren't forthcoming. Rather than put in the effort to replace the application, they just continue to use it and their Windows XP machines. I've seen it many times.
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    I will be upgrading an existing PC at work from XP. I also have the option of Windows 7 Pro or Windows 8, but not sure which edition of 8, probably Pro or Enterprise. It is part of a Microsoft action pack. And I'm very tempted to go the Windows 8 route. So you may count me in as a Windows 8 user in the workplace. I am a Microsoft developer and not just your common user of office suites. I've been using Windows 8 on my Samsung slate, which runs rings around my desktop machine which is running a core 2 duo.

    There are no plans to put any non-IT personnel on Windows 8 at work. So I am guinea pig for the new OS, lol... I will probably opt for Windows 8, before the big boss finds out forces me to stay on Windows 7. Possession is 9/10 of the law. My immediate boss is already quite interested in Windows server 2012.

    The one feature of Windows 8 that most excites me, is PC refresh with an image. I was very impressed by that feature a few weeks ago on my Samsung slate. In my line of work, that feature can be very very useful. Windows has a nasty habit of needing to be reinstalled periodically to the original performance back. With PC refresh, Microsoft seems to address that issue. And developer machines need every last ounce of performance.

    So within a few days or a few weeks, I'll give my report. I'll either be a static with joy or burying my head in the sand, lol...
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    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    My bet is xp machines are being chucked out or updated, and/or tablets might be used in conjunction with Windows 7.
    If enterprises are still using XP, it's most likely because they are also dependent upon some older applications that don't work right on the newer machines. Some of these older apps may no longer be developed, so updates aren't forthcoming. Rather than put in the effort to replace the application, they just continue to use it and their Windows XP machines. I've seen it many times.
    There is that, but isn't there Hyper-V 3.0 to work with? From what I know, that would work just as well since the guest OS doesn't need so much pass through, just run the OS and the program. But when it does come to file transfers...
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    Quote Originally Posted by skallal View Post
    I will be upgrading an existing PC at work from XP. I also have the option of Windows 7 Pro or Windows 8, but not sure which edition of 8, probably Pro or Enterprise.
    Unless you have an enterprise agreement with MS, or an MSDN agreement, you won't actually have the ability to run Enterprise.

    Quote Originally Posted by skallal View Post
    The one feature of Windows 8 that most excites me, is PC refresh with an image. I was very impressed by that feature a few weeks ago on my Samsung slate. In my line of work, that feature can be very very useful. Windows has a nasty habit of needing to be reinstalled periodically to the original performance back. With PC refresh, Microsoft seems to address that issue. And developer machines need every last ounce of performance.
    I don't think the "refresh" functionality is going to be as cool as you are expecting. This doesn't preserve your "desktop" applications, or file type associations. Read the following quote.

    Taken from the following story;
    Out of the box, Refresh will allow you to easily reset the operating system to its original state without deleting your Metro applications, personal files, user accounts, or the settings configured during initial setup. Also saved are network connections, BitLocker (and BitLocker To Go) encryption settings, and drive letter assignments. On the other hand, desktop applications will be removed, and firewall settings, file type associations, and display settings will be reset to defaults. According to Microsoft’s Building Windows 8 blog, the refresh function does not keep the above mentioned data by default because it is the software most likely to cause performance or stability issues.
    I would stick with a tranditional imaging program if you need the ability to put your machine back truly the way that it was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    My bet is xp machines are being chucked out or updated, and/or tablets might be used in conjunction with Windows 7.
    If enterprises are still using XP, it's most likely because they are also dependent upon some older applications that don't work right on the newer machines. Some of these older apps may no longer be developed, so updates aren't forthcoming. Rather than put in the effort to replace the application, they just continue to use it and their Windows XP machines. I've seen it many times.
    There is that, but isn't there Hyper-V 3.0 to work with? From what I know, that would work just as well since the guest OS doesn't need so much pass through, just run the OS and the program. But when it does come to file transfers...
    Sure, but chances are if they are on an old Windows XP machine then
    1). That machine is old and crappy and likely won't run Windows 8 well
    2). They will need a new machine with a CPU that supports SLAT (2nd level adrdress translation) to use Client Hyper-V
    3). They would need to now support the host PC as well as the Hyper-V machine with things like a) group policy b) IP addresses c) antivirus applications, )
    4). They may not want to go through the effort to reinstall their old software onto a new VM running XP.
    5). They likely haven't budgeted for new machines or such since they are still using XP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    Unless you have an enterprise agreement with MS, or an MSDN agreement, you won't actually have the ability to run Enterprise.

    I don't think the "refresh" functionality is going to be as cool as you are expecting. This doesn't preserve your "desktop" applications, or file type associations. Read the following quote.

    Taken from the following story;

    Out of the box, Refresh will allow you to easily reset the operating system to its original state without deleting your Metro applications, personal files, user accounts, or the settings configured during initial setup. Also saved are network connections, BitLocker (and BitLocker To Go) encryption settings, and drive letter assignments. On the other hand, desktop applications will be removed, and firewall settings, file type associations, and display settings will be reset to defaults. According to Microsoft’s Building Windows 8 blog, the refresh function does not keep the above mentioned data by default because it is the software most likely to cause performance or stability issues

    I would stick with a tranditional imaging program if you need the ability to put your machine back truly the way that it was.
    I am not saying that PC refresh gets you right back to where you were. I don't want to get it back in the state that it was before. I want to do the refresh to uncorrupt the OS. Also the above quote does not appear to be about PC refresh with imaging, but rather PC refresh without imaging. PC refresh with imaging did NOT restore 3 of my desktop apps. I get it.

    What I am saying is that PC refresh is much easier then reinstalling the whole OS clean from the beginning. In my case, I was able to get the OS back up and running, within an hour or less, rather than what could've taken a day or more. Yes I did have to reinstall three programs. Yes I did have to reinitialize some settings again.

    You see, if I had a true image restore, then I would been in the same mess I was in the first place, with some corrupted settings in the OS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skallal View Post
    You see, if I had a true image restore, then I would been in the same mess I was in the first place, with some corrupted settings in the OS.
    Not necessarily. I take an image right after OS install, Windows Update, drivers and activation. Then I add it to the domain and a majority of the applications that I know that I will always use. Then I image again. So, right there I have a plain vanilla image and an image with apps.

    I always keep those 2 images on hand. And about once every month or 2, I take an image of my drive and keep that for awhile. Thus, when I have a problem, I can either go back to my latest image, or my earliest image. Takes me about 5-10 minutes to lay an image down via eSATA to my machines. Like you said, must faster than reinstalling, running updates and loading all of my software.
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