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Will 'normal' Windows users want a Start button for Windows 8?

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    Will 'normal' Windows users want a Start button for Windows 8?


    SweetLabs joins a handful of other companies offering to bring the more familiar Start menu/Button back to Windows 8.

    Readers of this blog -- other than my mom (hi, mom!) -- are not normal, regular users. Sorry, you/we are not.

    "Normal" users are people who get their work (and play) done on Windows, but who are not techies or those who write about them. They are the people who are not likely to have done any real testing of Windows 8 so far. And they are the people who are either going to love or hate Windows 8 when they get to use it in retail stores for the first time next week.

    They are the "regular" people like Lockergnome's Chris Pirillo's dad -- a video of whom attempting to use a test build of Windows 8 went viral. Whether you consider Pirillo's video a page-view stunt or not (I am in the "not" camp), you might want to check out another video of his created in conjunction with startup SweetLabs.

    This time, Pirillo captured the reactions of various folks in the University District area of Seattle last month who got to try Windows 8 for their first time. These users were checking it out on laptops with keyboards. Their reactions run from interest, to puzzlement, to nervous laughter (in the case of one woman who identified herself as an admin who is quite conversant with Windows).

    Check it out:


    Read more at source:
    Will 'normal' Windows users want a Start button for Windows 8? | ZDNet

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    It is my belief that Microsoft is respecting the intelligence of people enough to expect them to think that it would not be difficult to use. This video, in the article, is so lame and unfair. It's like, on the street, are you smarter than a 5th grader? questions. They are confronted with Windows 8 for the first time and are expected to review a 100 million dollar collaboration in 60 seconds. The interviewer is just as uninformed and biased as his father was. People, when confronted on the street, are usually confused and nervous especially when they are being videotaped. What would an on street interview of how people would respond to Ubuntu be like. People generally have to attend some kind of class or support group to learn how to use an Apple. If the interviewer is implying that Windows 8 is bogus because there is no start menu, or they can't see the desktop from the start screen, or they can't figure out how to shut down the computer, then the interviewer is deliberately trying to make a fool out of everyone he tasks.
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    The author is comparing "normal" users of computers to "regular" users and whether or not either group will miss the Start Button. I believe that most who first use Windows 8 would prefer to have it back. But, I also believe that once they get used to Metro (yep everyone still calls it that--and probably always will), they will not miss the Start button and will feel that they do not need it. Certainly there will be a few who will miss it, but in the end I believe that it will no longer be a controversial subject.
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    I don't miss the start button, it's not the most important thing to me.
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    I did find it confusing at first on how to shut down Windows 8. That could have been a lot more clear.
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    I use Classic Shell and the Quick-Launch toolbar.

    BUT.......

    I have Classic Shell set to NOT disable Metro (although it IS
    set to boot directly to the desktop), and now find that I'm
    using both Metro AND the Start orb fairly equally.

    No, I don't particularly LIKE it. but am getting used to it, and
    it feels better and more natural by the day.

    Win 8 WON'T suit everyone, especially 'out-of-the-box', but if
    people take a bit of time to learn its differences, and set it up
    to suit THEM (as I have) then it's just dandy. There's nothing
    I can do on 7 that I can't do just as easily on 8

    It is certainly NO 'Vista' or 'BOB' (not that Vista was THAT bad...).
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    if Metro weren't full screen, I'd not have such a problem with it. That's my biggest issue. It is full screen, mandatory full screen. I'm not on a tablet, I don't need the screen with all the programs on it to cover absolutely everything and break up my work flow. I don't need every program in its own full window either. The fact that it is incredibly ugly is only a minor annoyance. If it weren't full screen, I'd be ... ok-ish with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tannim View Post
    if Metro weren't full screen, I'd not have such a problem with it. That's my biggest issue. It is full screen, mandatory full screen. I'm not on a tablet, I don't need the screen with all the programs on it to cover absolutely everything and break up my work flow. I don't need every program in its own full window either. The fact that it is incredibly ugly is only a minor annoyance. If it weren't full screen, I'd be ... ok-ish with it.
    You are only a click away from normal desktop environment. I also don't have a tablet or touch screen and very seldom I use any Metro Apps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    I did find it confusing at first on how to shut down Windows 8. That could have been a lot more clear.
    +1 to that, lol I eventually Googled it after I got tiered of pushing the power button on my case to shut down. Then I took it one step further and put a shutdown shortcut on my FKAM screen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brummyfan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by tannim View Post
    if Metro weren't full screen, I'd not have such a problem with it. That's my biggest issue. It is full screen, mandatory full screen. I'm not on a tablet, I don't need the screen with all the programs on it to cover absolutely everything and break up my work flow. I don't need every program in its own full window either. The fact that it is incredibly ugly is only a minor annoyance. If it weren't full screen, I'd be ... ok-ish with it.
    You are only a click away from normal desktop environment. I also don't have a tablet or touch screen and very seldom I use any Metro Apps.
    It's true that you are only 1 click away from a normal desktop, but when you don't use the Start Screen at all, and you don't want any Metro apps.....why in the world should you even have to deal with it being there? And without a third party app to restore start screen functionality, or knowing the actual executable to put into Win-R, i too find it incredibly annoying that I have to bring up a full screen menu, or select the search option from the Charms bar, (which in turns opens a full screen menu) to find the application that I want to run. I don't run anything full screen on my laptop or desktop...i certainly don't want the start menu being the whole screen. It was bad enough when it went from 1 column to 2.

    Of course, after I find it, and launch it, I pin it to the taskbar so I never have to bother again with the Start Screen....but that's the whole point...To me, the start screen is NOTHING but a Bother. I don't want to use it, it doesn't benefit me in any way, but there is nothing that I can do to avoid it or make it not intrusive.
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