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Will 'normal' Windows users want a Start button for Windows 8?

  1. #31


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    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    Let's go one by one...
    So, I'm just fooling around inside of a metro app, when I have a desktop app awaiting my attention.
    Yikes. Thanks. This is part of what I do not understand. Why not stay completely on the desktop? If you are doing only work, why not pin what you need from all apps and then stay at work on the desktop? Are there metro apps you must use? Why use the start screen at all? Isn't that what taskbar toolbars are for? Why not use a messaging service that is Win32 based? Since you are an administrator, you have special needs and special skills. Are you running multi monitor version of 8 in a virtual machine? I have never done that so I cannot comment. Extending monitors can be a bit touchy for use along the edges and confusing. That feature probably needs a lot of work. Leaving the desktop and running metro apps can be a distraction. For work, why not eliminate all metro apps and uninstall or block the store app. Make your machine a purely functional enterprise workstation. There is really no need for the SS at all unless you want to use it. All apps is the new start menu IMO. Perhaps, the metro area may not be suitable for everyone in the enterprise. We have already discussed this topic in another thread. I grow fatigued with the discussion. As new contributors enter, the same issues are rehashed. We have been down this road before. Thanks. I still believe new users, perhaps young people, who have never used a computer before, - might have never seen a start menu -, will get very well acquainted with 8 quickly. Most people are not system administrators. Have a great night!

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  2. #32


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    Windows 8 Enterprise 64-bit (7 Ult, Vista & XP in V-Box)


    If you can't do in 8 exactly what you did in Vista or 7, maybe you shouldn't HAVE a computer....

    Yes, it's different.

    But un-useable?

    No way!

    I loathed it at first, the DP was absolute crap.

    But I put a bit of time into learning it and tweaking it to my preferences.

    Now, I love it. The RTM is Rock-solid.

    Windows 7 with a turbo, basically.

    And you CAN ignore Metro if you use Classic Start or similar.

    I'm keeping 7 (Ultimate 32-bit) on the desktop, but Win 8 RTM is here to stay on the Super-Lappy.

    And the old lappy just LOVES the 32-bit Win 8 CP.....refuses to run the RP, but will run the 64-bit RTM with ease...go figure.
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  3. #33


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kat View Post
    If you can't do in 8 exactly what you did in Vista or 7, maybe you shouldn't HAVE a computer....

    • Go to "Personalize".
    • Change the following:
      • Font type
      • Icon Size
      • Icon Spacing
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  4. #34


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    I was referring to use, not customisation.

    I'll agree with you on that, tho.
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  5. #35


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    Windows 7 Ult Reatil & Win 8 Pro OEM


    Quote Originally Posted by Dogmatix View Post
    By the way, wherever does that phrase 'rocks' come from? One sees it all over the place nowadays...
    To the best of my knowledge it derives from rock & roll music, as in a room full of people all 'rockin & rollin' ... so the whole room 'rocks'.

    Translated that means they're all 'really livin it up' or 'having a ball' ... in old fashioned language, it's really great! Modern lingo ... 'cool man'.

    And getting back on topic, for some people the Metro start menu 'rocks', for others it 'reeks'! And same applies to alpha-numeric cascaded start menu.

    I personally prefer the W7 Orb start menu. But I did hear a rumour that Metro is very popular with bong users ... it was said that after the 3rd joint Metro is 'really trippin man!' lol!
    Last edited by Mustang; 19 Oct 2012 at 19:00.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kat View Post
    I was referring to use, not customisation.

    I'll agree with you on that, tho.
    Fair enough.
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  7. #37


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    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    MS are hoping the customers are not too smart, so they won't see what they are letting themselves in for.

    MS are trying dictate the way we interact with our machines - they are removing choices, locking down, treating us all like sheep to be led where they want us to go.

    It will be tragic if this thing gets off the ground.

    It is not about if one likes the metro interface or can do without a start menu - it is much bigger and deeper than that.

    So many are distracted by the superficialities.
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  8. #38


    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Hi there
    It's so easy for people to say just pin the applications you want to the task bar or send to desktop in the desktop view (as in previous versions of windows) but what some of these people fail to understsnd that for some people this isn't the solution either -- especially if you have some complex applications with a lot of HIERARCHIAL / SUB menus and SUB SUB menus etc. - If you were to try and put all these on the taskbar you are "merely re-creating" the tiles that you'd see on the start screen and you aren't any better off.

    It's the lack of a HIERARCHIAL structure that is the problem.

    For instance I don't mind the Tiles per se but say I install ADOBE CS -- now instead of installing 10 zillion tiles for this app why can't it work as ONE TILE which if I clicked on the tile would EXPAND into a VERTICAL set of tiles so I could then select my desired sub application.

    Much more useable and I'm sure the programmers on this forum could probably program something like that in about 5 minutes flat.

    Had some sort of decent structure been made available rather than just trying to emulate a phone / tablet screen W8 would probably not have got ANY negative publicity at all.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  9. #39


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    Quote Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kat View Post
    If you can't do in 8 exactly what you did in Vista or 7, maybe you shouldn't HAVE a computer....

    • Go to "Personalize".
    • Change the following:
      • Font type
      • Icon Size
      • Icon Spacing
    Well, it's not quite the same, but hopefully this will help some with that for now.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    why can't it work as ONE TILE which if I clicked on the tile would EXPAND into a VERTICAL set of tiles so I could then select my desired sub application.
    all apps area

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