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Don’t Believe The FUD: Windows 8 Is Much Better Than You Think

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    Don’t Believe The FUD: Windows 8 Is Much Better Than You Think


    The official Windows 8 launch is less than two weeks away and judging by much of the commentary ahead of the consumer launch, you’d think that Windows 8 on the desktop is a total, unmitigated disaster. It isn’t. It does take some getting used to, but the vast majority of desktop users will do just fine with Windows 8.

    Those who think Microsoft went off the deep end with Windows 8 tend to focus on how much of a hybrid between a desktop and tablet/touch operating system it is. They ask how users will ever live without the traditional Start menu? How will they figure out how to switch between Metro apps? How will they ever find their way back to the familiar desktop once they open the new Start menu? How could Microsoft ever release an operating system that places such a massive cognitive burden on so many users?
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    Actually, if you load this little baby, you can toss metro, hot corners, and charms bar all in one stroke. W7 explorer for W8, works great.

    Windows 7 explorer for Windows 8
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    Thanks DooRules


    Quote Originally Posted by DooRules View Post
    Actually, if you load this little baby, you can toss metro, hot corners, and charms bar all in one stroke. W7 explorer for W8, works great.

    Windows 7 explorer for Windows 8
    Thanks for the link DooRules.

    I can't try it out as my W8 VHD won't run (since I reinstalled my operating systems).
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    Hi there
    C'mon guys -- we've been down this route "Ad Nauseam".

    Some people --maybe the majority will actually LIKE the new interface -- but for people who use and install loads of complex apps like the entire adobe CS suite or the complete visual studio package the new interface is NOT FIT FOR PURPOSE.

    Any sort of complex app that has sublevel choices within its main menu needs to have a Hierarchical access level -- this cannot be done with a "One dimensional" infinite left scroll model.

    You can "with difficulty" arrange some tiles in a sort of decent way to run these types of applications but it isn't easy, quick or intuitive.

    As I said before if you are running essentially simple apps that you don't need a hierarchical structure for -- fine -- but there are those of us who don't use a laptop like a smartphone / tablet --and the current start screen for these scenarios is an unmitigated disaster.

    We shouldn't have to rely on 3rd party apps to make BASIC USE of the OS.

    Cheers
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    I've been looking at the amazon.com reviews of Windows 8 as it's on pre-order right now. So far, there are 17 reviews, and there are like four 1 star reviews. There is even a review by an apple devotee that might actually switch to a PC, Windows Phone, and buy a Surface because of the OS. Every other review is either a four or five star review.

    Looks like someone was correct in their assertion that Windows 8 will be well received....
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Hi there
    C'mon guys -- we've been down this route "Ad Nauseam".

    Some people --maybe the majority will actually LIKE the new interface -- but for people who use and install loads of complex apps like the entire adobe CS suite or the complete visual studio package the new interface is NOT FIT FOR PURPOSE.

    Any sort of complex app that has sublevel choices within its main menu needs to have a Hierarchical access level -- this cannot be done with a "One dimensional" infinite left scroll model.

    You can "with difficulty" arrange some tiles in a sort of decent way to run these types of applications but it isn't easy, quick or intuitive.

    As I said before if you are running essentially simple apps that you don't need a hierarchical structure for -- fine -- but there are those of us who don't use a laptop like a smartphone / tablet --and the current start screen for these scenarios is an unmitigated disaster.

    We shouldn't have to rely on 3rd party apps to make BASIC USE of the OS.

    Cheers
    jimbo

    I have 50 programs installed on my PC, normally it would be upwards of 80+ programs and games as I don't want to dive too deep in a trial preview. Out of that bunch, I have a few program suites and I take good advantage of the Start Screen and haven't found anything difficult to understand or use about it. In fact, navigating around with a mouse is SOOOO much better than any other version as it's fast and fluid.

    I think you might be doing it wrong.
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    Reviews on Amazon can be just silly. For example, there is one guy who is a supposed "die hard Linux guy", and this version of Windows is going to convert him because of "out of the box integration", and "social media"? I don't buy it for one second. In fact, most die hard linux guys are probably anti social media, and run their own mail systems and won't settle for an out of the box experience.

    I can log into Amazon.com and say that Windows 8 is the greatest thing I have ever seen and that I will run it on every single computer that I run across...but that' doesn't mean it's true. I might just be lying.
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    True, but reviews are reviews. There are some other silly reviews of Windows 8 that claims it's far too confusing to use, it's awful for the desktop, it's the end of the PC....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    True, but reviews are reviews. There are some other silly reviews of Windows 8 that claims it's far too confusing to use, it's awful for the desktop, it's the end of the PC....
    Well, some of those have a hint of potential truth in them. A linux die hard though, is most likely nowhere near as much of a diehard as they proclaim to be if a few visual differences are enough to persuade them. It's a religious belief and a matter of principal. There are far more substantial reasons these people have elected to not use a Microsoft product.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    but for people who use and install loads of complex apps like the entire adobe CS suite or the complete visual studio package the new interface is NOT FIT FOR PURPOSE. Any sort of complex app that has sublevel choices within its main menu needs to have a Hierarchical access level -- this cannot be done with a "One dimensional" infinite left scroll model.
    You can "with difficulty" arrange some tiles in a sort of decent way to run these types of applications but it isn't easy, quick or intuitive. As I said before if you are running essentially simple apps that you don't need a hierarchical structure for -- fine -- but there are those of us who don't use a laptop like a smartphone / tablet --and the current start screen for these scenarios is an unmitigated disaster.
    OK. So this is a discussion about the article. Even Paul Allen made a brief comment about the new design and questioned why there were not heirarchies. With the following pics, I question which one is easier to use.

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