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Hyper-V on Windows 8 client

  1. #11

    Technically, I can run these in a domain environment. Yes, I tried previously to run in a mixed domain/non-domain mode and was using hvremote. Its absolutely absurd that it's sooo hard to get something so simple up and running. That has always been a complaint of mine with Hyper-V. Virtualization using vmware, or xenserver is drop dead simple to get up and running. Hyper V on the other hand, requires about 5 hours of Google time and eventual stumbling upon of hvremote. I'm almost surprised they don't require SSL certificates as well to connect.

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  2. #12

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    Windows Server 2012 Standard w/Hyper-V

    HVRemote isn't ready for Hyper-V 2012, yet. I was just working with that today. I did get it to work, but I'm looking forward to version 1.x - I also found the step-by-step instructions (those automated by the script), and I think those are going to work better until 1.x is released.

    You could always try PowerShell
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  3. #13

    I can appreciate being able to script things with powershell and that's really awesome. But the simple fact that you almost need to be a powershell expert to fire up a virtual machine is ridiculous. It's much easier when you use the full version of Windows server and just enable the Hyper-V role, but when you launch a standalone Hyper-V 2012 box (because it's small and free) and you simply cannot connect via any type of client to begin working and configuring your environment is just perplexing.

    With Hyper-V 2012 standalone, I joined it to my domain. I then turned on remote administration. I then figured out that I had to add my local account to the local admins group and could then connect from the hyper-V management role on a Windows 8 client. It was a thing of joy. No hvremote needed. Then a quick enabling of the advfirewall via netsh and I was able to connect with Computer Management from that Windows 8 host and I was underway. Things are much improved, but could continue to be improved upon with some simply client tool that you install and then provide a username/password combo.
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  4. #14

    Orbiting the Moon
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    Windows 10 x64

    Quote Originally Posted by cluberti View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hopachi View Post
    So Hyper-V has very low CPU overhead but you cannot test all applications without opengl or sound enabled. Probably it's intended for plain business use with about 8 mb graphics card or there may be tweaks that I don't know yet.
    It is, but remember you can RDP into it, which allows you to do things like redirect drives, audio, etc. But again, it's really meant to be a dev/test environment, not a compatibility environment. The server side of things allows you to virtualize video cards to use things like RemoteFX to accelerate DirectX and other video and image things inside the VM over RDP, but it's not meant for gaming, for instance. It *can* be used as a compatibility vessel for old applications and such, to a point (similar to what MED-V does on Windows 7), but it is what it is. It's good that there are lots of virtualization options for Windows, but Hyper-V is Microsoft's enterprise virtualization stack. It makes sense that's kinda what it's designed for . There are some type-2 virtualization products that can do some of the acceleration inside the VM and viewer, so if you're looking for that sort of thing, it can be done. However, I don't know what kind of performance you'd get compared to dual-booting, for instance, and running that OS natively.
    Thanks for the explanation.

    Interesting... RDP and driver redirection are things that exceed my knowledge for the moment. But its good to know what the product was specifically made for and the extra possibilities.

    A 2-type virtualization product (for instance VirtualBox or VMware Player) is what I mainly use. The boot performance depends on the guest os. My i5 laptop is unable to install Win XP as a host (sata drivers included): I always get a BSOD from the cd, but a XP VM in VirtualBox boots up in about 5 seconds on a HDD! The virtual HDD is accelerated with burst speeds and exceeds the host on some tests. That's way faster than a natively boot BUT the emulated graphics are buggy and are still way beyond the native performance. But XP as a guest suits all the needs and that's why it isn't needed as a host anymore + is outdated.

    There are ways to use the host graphics (if you got at least two on-board) on guest desktops with AMD-Vi and Intel VT-d CPU's but I don't have one of those. However I'm happy with the provided basic guest acceleration in most cases.

    So you always have ups and downs in VM performance but it's good the VM's work as intended.
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  5. #15

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    win 8 Ent

    There are three negatives with the Win 8 implementation that I have found to be serious in our environment.
    1) SLAT should be an option not a requirement
    2) Hyper-V admin console should conntect to server 2008 and Server 2008 R2 Hyper-V hosts
    3) Hyper-V on Windows 8 should support USB pass-thru

    It also seems strange that Win 8 does not come with a small set of license keys for client OS activation (maybe 1-XP, 1-Vista, 1-Win7). This is especially true since using client Win 7 is the only MS solution to the Hyper-V Admin Issue.
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  6. #16

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    win 8

    Yep, no one would ever, ever, want to test sound or USB devices in a test environment. Inconceivable.

    As usual, at the end of a long install process, Microsoft hits me with an unexpected show stopper.
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