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Windows 8 Client Hyper-v verses VMWare Workstation 9

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    Windows 8 Client Hyper-v verses VMWare Workstation 9


    Hi


    I thought I would start a (impartial) discussion here as it would help me with it terms of how I might configure a new Windows 8 laptop.


    Ok, VMWare Worstation 9 was released on the 23rd August. As a freelance consultant I want to configure Windows 8 Pro to run multiple server virtual farms (AD, SharePoint, exchange etc) . Since I want this to all be hosted on a reasonably high spec laptop so i7 > 16 GB DDR3 etc. I wondered if anyone had any thoughts on, or planning to evaluate this type of scenario, on either Client hyper-v or VMWorkstation 9



    • Performance
    • Battery drain -
    • Easy of creating snapshots of vm clones
    • USB 3 support
    • Ease of setting up a virtual networks of one or more servers and also internet connectivity
    • testing metro apps in Windows 8 vms
    • ability to move the the VMs in to a cloud service and vica versa



    Let the debate begin

    Daniel

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    Well, first and foremost, Hyper-V is going to be included for free, which VMWare Workstation 9.x currently is a $249.00 product.

    I'm a VMWare user, but I use the enterprise products at work, am very familiar with how they work and have more of a need to keep things consistent. VMware has always been the better product for me as I often virtualize more Linux boxes than anything else and MS support of Linux clients as a VM has never been that good.

    I have a license for VMWare Workstation 8.x, and am unsure yet if I will pony up the $119 for the upgrade. The feature set didn't seem like it was going to really be that advantageous for me. So, my experience on Workstation 9.x might continue to be lacking.

    To me, it seems like you want to run MS apps, and you get Hyper-V for free. I would really start there and see if you have concerns. Then consider the cost and feature set of VMWare Workstation.
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    Windows Server 2012 Standard w/Hyper-V


    Having used both on a regular basis, I find that Hyper-V is going to be easier on the system resources as a type 1 hypervisor. Also, Hyper-V 3.0 really does dynamic memory well, providing for minimum, start up, and maximum memory values. If you are you going to run multiple guests constantly, I think this is the better choice (unless you need Linux guests). Also, it's free.

    On the other hand, VMWare Workstation handles non-Microsoft operating systems with aplomb. Also, you have a much better visual experience (with Hyper-V, you have to use RDP for a good visual experience). VMWare also bad a proven record as an industry leader in client and server virtualization. On a client, VMWare Workstation is a wonderful experience. Hyper-V us just now becoming available on non-server systems, and it does not yet have all the features you'd expect for client-side virtualization (unity, resizing of the guest OS, etc).

    On the other hand cloning and template creation in Hyper-V us just a matter of sysprep, then copy and paste. I usually sysprep a virtual server, then rename that VHD to xxx-template. I can then copy, paste, and rename to have an almost turn key solution.

    Right now, I use Hyper-V 3.0 for all my testing.
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    I don't think he is talking about running a type 1 hypervisor. He's talking about the type-2 hypervisor type that is included in Windows 8 on the host.

    VMware offers ESXi as a free type 1 hypervisor that is also much better on system resources.
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    Windows Server 2012 Standard w/Hyper-V


    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    I don't think he is talking about running a type 1 hypervisor. He's talking about the type-2 hypervisor type that is included in Windows 8 on the host.
    Windows 8 (Pro/Ent) use Hyper-V 3.0, which is the same type 1 hypervisor used by Windows Server 2012.
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    Ok, I guess I gotta do some playing around with Hyper-V 3.0 then. I have read about it running as a type-1 hypervisor since I last posted.

    So, if Windows 8 were to crash on the host, would the hypervisor keep running and servicing requests?
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    Windows Server 2012 Standard w/Hyper-V


    To be honest, I don't know, but I doubt it. Windows crashes can still halt the hardware. This holds true for the server products as well. Adding the Hyper-V feature to a Windows product (like adding Xen to openSUSE) changes the kernel some, but doesn't fully virtualise the parent OS. Hyper-V Server is a different matter.
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    windows 7-64 bit


    Hi

    Guys thanks for these really interesting comments. Looks like the type-1 Hypervisor that is supplied in Windows 8 Pro Hyper-V 3.0 will meet my needs. Thinks I will like is the memory managment and the ease of cloning instance VMs of Windows 2008R2 and also Windows 2012. Out of interest if my laptop supports touch screens I wonder if the (win 8) VMs can make use of this function?


    As you rightly guessed my testing is all on the Windows .NET platform. I would like to spin off an Ubuntu vm for local WordPress testing but this really low on the priority list.

    Daniel
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    Quote Originally Posted by westerdaled View Post
    I would like to spin off an Ubuntu vm for local WordPress testing but this really low on the priority list.
    Ubuntu will run on Hyper-V but only in windowed mode and without additions/tools to enhance the mouse speed, graphics, etc.
    Since it's a test and low on the priority list, you can give it a try if you have the time or just let it be.

    I don't know about usb 3.0 but i think only VMware has it for now. Metro apps can run in a vm, but the 1024x768 screen resolution as minimum still applies. Here is VMware WS 9 a step further since it's claimed they support fullscreen apps in Unity mode. Some apps also have animations which require graphics acceleration. You can always turn off the animations of the VM OS improve performance, and for the rest of the features, Hyper-V is good for the job.

    Regards
    Hopachi
    Last edited by Hopachi; 25 Aug 2012 at 10:20. Reason: corrected text
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    Windows Server 2012 Standard w/Hyper-V


    Quote Originally Posted by Hopachi View Post
    Ubuntu will run on Hyper-V but only in windowed mode and without additions/tools to enhance the mouse speed, graphics, etc.
    I'm pretty sure that Microsoft's guest additions for Unix will work (but I haven't tried it myself).
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