Regarding upgrading PC to support virtualization

sri2000

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Hi Everyone,

ok so my pc specs are as follows.(mostly described in description underneath as know to all)

Intel pentium dual processor - e2180

so now i hate to admit it but my pc doesnt support hardware virtualization!
so my prob is that in reason to have hardware virtualization on my pc, what should i do?
like upgrade processor?
or upgrade motherboard?
sumthin like that

thanks in advance!
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro Update 1
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Dell
    CPU
    Inspiron 530S
    Motherboard
    64Bit X64 based Processor
    Memory
    4.5GB Ram
    Graphics Card(s)
    1GB - XFX ONE ATI Radeon HD 5450 - Plus Edition
    Sound Card
    Inbuilt
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    Dell Monitor
    Screen Resolution
    1440*900
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    1*Seagate 150gb + 1*Seagate 320gb
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    3 x fans
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    Dell USB Mouse
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Hi there
You CAN still run 32 bit Guests even if your hardware doesn't support virtualisation -- download FREE VMWARE player rel 6.01

If you want to run 64 bit guests then I'd go totallly for a new PC - better processor, more RAM, faster BUS support (faster disks etc) and better graphics. (Or change Motherboard and processor together -- you should also update RAM). Note that you can also get SATA==>IDE connectors for old HDD's and converters for the power supplies (the old 4 pin to SATA power adaptors).

However put your OS on a fast decent HDD otherwise you will be wasting most of your money on your upgrade -- it's amazing how many people don't realize how much bad performance is generally due to SLOW HDD's rather than anything else on their systems.

Cheers
jimbo
 

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    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10
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    1 X LG 40 inch TV
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Hi there
You CAN still run 32 bit Guests even if your hardware doesn't support virtualisation -- download FREE VMWARE player rel 6.01

yeah that i know i have vmware workstation adn virtual box installed!

my question is to enable hardware virtualization do i need to upgrade my processor or motherboard?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro Update 1
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Dell
    CPU
    Inspiron 530S
    Motherboard
    64Bit X64 based Processor
    Memory
    4.5GB Ram
    Graphics Card(s)
    1GB - XFX ONE ATI Radeon HD 5450 - Plus Edition
    Sound Card
    Inbuilt
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell Monitor
    Screen Resolution
    1440*900
    Hard Drives
    1*Seagate 150gb + 1*Seagate 320gb
    Cooling
    3 x fans
    Keyboard
    Dell Analog
    Mouse
    Dell USB Mouse
    Internet Speed
    1Mbps, 100kbps Download Speed
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky, Norton, Avast, Bitdefender, but Switched off
Hi there
You CAN still run 32 bit Guests even if your hardware doesn't support virtualisation -- download FREE VMWARE player rel 6.01

yeah that i know i have vmware workstation adn virtual box installed!

my question is to enable hardware virtualization do i need to upgrade my processor or motherboard?

Hi there.

probably BOTH .

the CPU must of course be 64 bit enabled -- but the CHIPSET in the computer (other functions such as BUS, RAM handle, addressing / I/O controllers etc etc) need to be capable of handling 64 bits as well -- the chipset must be capable of handling an instruction 64 bits wide as well as the CPU which needs to be able to decode and execute it.

The RAM addressing must also be able to store 64 bit RAM addresses too -- so the chipset DOES need to be 64 bit capable as well as the CPU.

If the CHIPSET can't handle a 64 bit address then you've had it. !!! IMO either a complete new computer or BOTH a MOBO and CPU upgrade is needed.

A good indicator is to see if the BIOS will allow you to fit more than 4GB in the memory slots --if your computer is old then the memory will be DDR (more expensive actually than modern RAM (and will only likely have two slots). AFAIK it's almost impossible to find single 4GB RAM DDR modules -- no problem with modern memory modules.

(The Max memory is not actually an infallible test -- I remember some old Netbooks -- Max memory you could fit was 2GB but they would run in 64 bit mode for what it was worth - but it's a good indicator).

Cheers
jimbo
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1 X LG 40 inch TV
    Hard Drives
    SSD's * 3 (Samsung 840 series) 250 GB
    2 X 3 TB sata
    5 X 1 TB sata
    Internet Speed
    0.12 GB/s (120Mb/s)
hmm i can use upto 16 gb ram on mine,
my mobo can handle 64 bit as of now.
so can u suggest a cheap cpu ?
thanks,
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro Update 1
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Dell
    CPU
    Inspiron 530S
    Motherboard
    64Bit X64 based Processor
    Memory
    4.5GB Ram
    Graphics Card(s)
    1GB - XFX ONE ATI Radeon HD 5450 - Plus Edition
    Sound Card
    Inbuilt
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell Monitor
    Screen Resolution
    1440*900
    Hard Drives
    1*Seagate 150gb + 1*Seagate 320gb
    Cooling
    3 x fans
    Keyboard
    Dell Analog
    Mouse
    Dell USB Mouse
    Internet Speed
    1Mbps, 100kbps Download Speed
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky, Norton, Avast, Bitdefender, but Switched off
Hi there
You need to check first whether the mobo is INTEL or AMD chpset, note the socket it has for the CPU and then choose based opn that.

Google or look at MOBO specs to see what CPU's are supported on it.

You *Might* still have problem enabling VT in the BIOS -- then you'll have to flash it via a BIOS update.

My take on all this is probably to get new Mobo and CPU -- you can probably source them cheaply enough these days.

Cheers
jimbo
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1 X LG 40 inch TV
    Hard Drives
    SSD's * 3 (Samsung 840 series) 250 GB
    2 X 3 TB sata
    5 X 1 TB sata
    Internet Speed
    0.12 GB/s (120Mb/s)
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