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XP users why not use vmware workstation and UNITY mode

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    XP users why not use vmware workstation and UNITY mode


    Hi there
    For XP users who want to keep using their XP system why not run VMWARE VMPLAYER -- FREE in UNITY MODE.

    You don't need even to run Windows as your Host --I've posted in the FORUM how to create a Portable system that runs Windows Virtual machines and totally boots from an external HDD / USB stick (even if there's no HDD in the main computer !!).

    Using Unity mode simply gives you access to all your Windows XP programs (and runs them) directly from the Host
    without you needing to enter the VM at all -- Power up your VM and simply click the Unity mode on the vm menu.

    If you use Linux as a host it saves you having to purchase a new version of windows (Linux is FREE). Simply convert your XP system to a VM and then you can keep running XP for as long as you like without worrying about having to upgrade Windows.

    Cheers
    jimbo

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    How do you create a virtual image of a running pc?

    what os's are you able to do this for?
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    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    Hi there
    There are loads of tools to convert a PHYSYCAL machine to a VIRTUAL machine -- process is known as P2V. (The reverse process V2P or VIRTUAL TO PHYSICAL) is much more complex however).

    Try this first (for VMware or vbox)

    Convert & Use Your Physical Machine In VMware, VirtualBox & Virtual PC

    cheers
    jimbo
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    Thanks Jimbo, that is a great idea! I don't use XP but this gave me a nice idea.
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    Hi there

    Here's 2 VM's in Unity mode

    XP and W8.1 on Linux Mint host (using VMware workstation). VMware PLAYER (Free) version 6 - the latest now also incorporates Unity mode too. ( I think you can customize this a bit too so the icons can go directly on the Linux desktop if you don't want to go through the Unity menu -- I don't need that but some users might find it less confusing).

    Note - you can see how busy I am currently -- installed the old W7 games on W8 !!!! -- be glad to finally finish current contract in UK at end Easter -- give me working in Brussels at any time - start a new one in JUNE -- off whole of May.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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    This is great stuff, man. I'll try this as soon as I can. I'm thinking of getting rid of Windows completely Not really Will be installing kubuntu soon. Jimbo, is there any difference between kubuntu and Linux Mint KDE?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arpan View Post
    This is great stuff, man. I'll try this as soon as I can. I'm thinking of getting rid of Windows completely Not really Will be installing kubuntu soon. Jimbo, is there any difference between kubuntu and Linux Mint KDE?
    Hi there.

    These are all based on DEBIAN (I've also got DEBIAN WHEEZY 7.4) -- I think KUBUNTU is just a KDE based UBUNTU but there's nothing to stop you installing KDE on any Distro --people seem to recommend UBUNTU then install KDE instead of using kubuntu.

    Linux Mint for KDE is easily installed -- if you want KDE download the LIVE KDE version and simply install.

    I've found the hardware detection on decent Linux systems pretty good these days --often BETTER than windows (my internal SD card for example -- no good on XP / W8.1 although it did work on W7.

    Using SAMBA though I just share the SD card to GUESTS as a SAMBA share -- use the samba-config GUI -- no more messing up with SWAT / config files --it's almost MORE WINDOWS than WINDOWS !!! -- although if you are "Old School" you can do everything via the terminal and install a tiny system --although you will need a window manager and video server (Xorg or X) to run vbox / VMware. (screenshot enc)

    Opensuse /Fedora / red hat are based on "rpm" package management. Opensuse is pretty good also hat hardware detection but Linux Mint seems to have it the best -- also video / audio codecs / DVD playing etc already installewd --you have to mess around to get them to work in suse --something with libdvdcss / drm and other junk (Install from Pacman repository then it's fine).

    What I like about Linux is the sheer choice you have -- BUT while that's fine for individuals it would be a NIGHTMARE for professional IT people to manage these if Linux were used on people's work desktops -- as servers it's very good indeed and for individual users also great but for "the great Unwashed" out there -- forget it.

    (Samba GUI config -- easy these days shown below). Running W8.1 Enterprise as VM on Linux mint 16 (petra) Host.

    (Note Linux Mint install detected my Wireless card -- DEBIAN needed me to install iwlwifi-firmware from repository - documentation is OK but if this is the case also with UBUNTU then connect up a wired LAN before installing - then download the module. -- Was using an INTEL built in wireless card. Linux Mint and Opensuse both detected wireless card without problems).

    Linux Mint also allowed the windows VM graphics to use hardware acceleration and 3-D graphics on the GUEST (note GUEST doesn't support 3D if it's Windows XP). Debian / opensuse disabled the 3D option -- didn't make a huge difference on the GUEST though unless you like "glass / Aero" type of effects. --My Laptop was using the INTEL graphics chip so again I'd go for Linux Mint.

    The guest plays video decently, streams from NETFLIX etc and my music / Radio streaming application works perfectly too on the GUEST. I stream the Radio / music into hardware receivers around the house. If it weren't for things like Netflix, office, photoshop etc I'd be off windows - although I do have a VINYL cutting machine which I like to make some vinyls for people to order -- this still runs on XP !!!.

    Radio / Music streaming app in Windows guest also shown. This in theory will work on Linux but it needs a bit of work messing about with the kernel --at my age I'm far too old to be bothered with that all over again !! - If it works easily in Windows - so be it -- streaming FLAC music to remote hardware devices needs a bit of messing about --got other things to do.

    cheers
    jimbo
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    Hello Jimbo,

    Thanks for the detailed response. It was extremely helpful. I'm no expert with the Linux Terminal or Linux Kernel. I've been using Linux Mint KDE for the last 8 months but haven't had the time to read all the documentation and tutorials on Linux programming. Nevertheless, your post will be helpful after I understand everything.

    I'll install Ubuntu and then install KDE instead of installing Kubuntu.

    I wanted to give you rep points for that post but it seems like I'll have to rep some other members before I can rep you again.

    Thanks,
    Arpan
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    Unity has got to be the coolest feature of VMWare Workstation for sure. You can even pin shortcuts to your Taskbar or Desktop or Start Screen to actually run a virtualized program from Unity mode so it makes the whole process more simpler. Just click and its runs.

    But the trade offs are: you need a PC with decent hardware, anything modern past 2008 can work; and cost, VMWare Workstation costs about 3-400 dollars for a yearly or three year subscription. But, it offers better virtualization than Hyper-V in Windows 8; better guest OS support, better configuration, better host-guest OS interaction, overall just better.
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    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    Hi there
    UNITY mode is now offered also in VMPLAYER rel 6 and is FREE. For individuals vmplayer is a good bet -- most individuals don't really need all the features of vmware workstation. VMPLAYER can also create VM's.

    Vmware workstation so far (at least the release I'm using doesn't require a subscription either -- I'm avoiding all subscription software where possible --that's why I'm sticing with photoshop CS6 and Office 2010 and gradually moving what I can to Linux and only running Windows as GUEST machines unless I ansolutely have to install Windows in Native mode on a particular machine

    Cheers
    jimbo
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