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XP users why not use vmware workstation and UNITY mode

  1. #11


    A Finnish ex-pat in Leipzig, Germany
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    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    I'm happy with my simple solution, a Windows 7 Professional vm running on Hyper-V which I need in anyway, with free Windows XP Mode installed on it, a virtual machine on a virtual machine. It's enough for me, especially when the Seven vm is used over RDP instead of Hyper-V Virtual Machine Connection​.

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  2. #12


    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Quote Originally Posted by Kari View Post
    I'm happy with my simple solution, a Windows 7 Professional vm running on Hyper-V which I need in anyway, with free Windows XP Mode installed on it, a virtual machine on a virtual machine. It's enough for me, especially when the Seven vm is used over RDP instead of Hyper-V Virtual Machine Connection​.
    Hi Kari.

    Your setup is fine - but might be a bit "over the top" for typical "normal" users who possibly might like to play with individual VM's.

    Also my system is basically designed to run as a PORTABLE windows system which you can use almost anywhere - it boots and runs totally from an external HDD. Booting up a small Linux system is very fast even on moderate hardware and starting a VM under vmplayer is fine for typical individual users - in fact running W8.1 this way on an external SDD I get better response time from the VM than running NATIVE Windows from the laptops internal HDD. !!


    By running TOTALLY off the external device the user can run on nearly any computer - as the VM runs on VIRTUAL HARDWARE re-activation won't be a problem either unless the HOST hardware is really weird. Also no changes at all are made to the HOST computer -- good for example if you are "stuffed" with a Works locked down PC" and you need a different version of office for example.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  3. #13


    A Finnish ex-pat in Leipzig, Germany
    Posts : 1,452
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    Jimbo, I think we have the same goal and way to think, just having different approach for it. Your method is certainly well working and practical, it's just that personally I am not a great fan of VMware and prefer Hyper-V. My previous post was simply to tell about another approach. Not better, not worse, just another.

    Although my travelling has been on ice lately due both my own and my mother-in-law's health situation, usually I am on the road quite a lot. When on the road, I have a light but capable "travel laptop" and more importantly a Windows To Go stick with me, both equipped with a private VPN connection to my home server where all my virtual machines are stored. I do not need to carry my vm's with me because I can access them from anywhere.

    For the same reason I use extra large (paid for additional storage) OneDrive and Younited services, OneDrive as default "Save as" location for my Libraries in each computer I am using and Younited for backups, to access my personal data wherever I am without having to think where it is stored or if I need to sync data before going away.

    According to an old Finnish saying, one likes the daughter whereas others prefer the mother . Today's modern Windows operating systems and devices, together with virtualization and cloud storage allow an almost seamless access to about everything you have and need regarding your computing needs. I cannot tell you a single reason why my approach would be better or worse than yours, for me they both do what they need to do.

    Kari
    Last edited by Kari; 04 Apr 2014 at 08:31. Reason: At least worst typos fixed :).
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  4. #14


    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Hi Kari

    I'll certainly have a go trying that --as you say there are many different solutions -- however the Windows to Go is only available on ENTERPRISE which unfortunately removes a lot of people from this possibility as Windows 8 / 8/1 Enterprise isn't available via retail and only available to individual users via the 90 day trial. I still have the TechNet versions but again that route is now closed or closing for these people.

    Linux of course is readily available -- so another method possibly is to try the XEN system or VBOX of course - however over the years I've found VMWARE actually more than adequate -- Like in all things though it's your choice and as they say YMMV.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  5. #15


    there are many different solutions
    I would go booting from vhd(s) (more machine less virtual), any version of xp/7/8 will work and you do not need any host OS or virtual machine to boot it.
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  6. #16


    A Finnish ex-pat in Leipzig, Germany
    Posts : 1,452
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    Quote Originally Posted by HDbooter View Post
    there are many different solutions
    I would go booting from vhd(s) (more machine less virtual), any version of xp/7/8 will work and you do not need any host OS or virtual machine to boot it.
    For me that would be like having a dual / triple / whatever boot system, taking away the biggest reason I use virtual machines: ability to run several operating systems simultaneously, like now being on Windows 8.1 Pro, Windows 7 running on another display on a vm to allow me to check something while responding to posts at the Seven Forums, a SUSE Linux vm taking at the same time care of my IPTV subscription playlist downloads (works best on barebone SUSE).

    I have no patience to boot to Seven every time I need it for a minute or so, then rebooting back to Eight.
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  7. #17


    Hafnarfjörður IS
    Posts : 4,376
    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Hi there.

    I agree with Kari -- I'm running Windows 8.1 update 1 for testing, Windows 7 so I can logon to corporate SAP systems and also a VPN, a W2K3 server which I'm looking to replace with W2012 server, an XP system for legacy hardware such as a Vinyl disc cutting machine and Minidisc software to get music from live minidisc recording on to the Vinyl etc and the odd Linux distro which I just want to try out.

    All these VM's run as and when I want them --I'm currently using a Linux Mint KDE host although they work well with suse. I can even boot the whole kybosh up from a small USB stick if I have to -- extremely flexible -- no dual booting or whatever. If I have some of these VM's stored on SSD's then I can run these from virtually ANY PC that can boot from a USB device -- very flexible.

    I don't need the HOST machine to start up so VHD's can be mounted -- as Kari says it rather reduces the value of using VM's in the first place.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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