Windows 8 and 8.1 Forums


Legacy software - newbie question

  1. #1

    Legacy software - newbie question


    I hope I have the right section of the forum. I need to upgrade my laptop to one running Win8 but have some legacy business software I need to run. I believe Windows 8 Pro has Hyper-V to set up a virtual machine in which I can run XP (my legacy software runs ok on my XP machines). Am I right in assuming that I will be able to load my legacy software (16 bit installers) and run it in this virtual envirnment? Is it difficult to configure? And is it straightforward to run these applications once they have been installed?

    Many Thanks
    Steve

      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  2. #2


    A Finnish ex-pat in Leipzig, Germany
    Posts : 1,452
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    Hi Steve, welcome to the Eight Forums.

    You are right, you can create an XP virtual machine on Hyper-V and install your legacy software on it. I have XP, Vista, Seven and various Linux distros installed on Hyper-V virtual machines, all of them working without issues.

    Tutorials:

    Go ahead, come back here and let us assist you in setting up your first Hyper-V virtual machine.

    Kari
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  3. #3


    Thanks for the quick reply. Am I right in assuming that Hyper-V is only available in Win 8 Pro. If it is, is there a 3rd party s/w that works under the standard Win 8 (non Pro)...VMware? Is it worth paying the extra for the Pro version? I will only be going for Pro for the Hyper-V.

    Steve
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  4. #4


    A Finnish ex-pat in Leipzig, Germany
    Posts : 1,452
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    Yes, Hyper-V is only included in Pro and Enterprise editions.

    A very subjective personal opinion: I have used all free virtualization platforms, Oracle VirtualBox, Microsoft Virtual PC, VMware Player and so on. None gives so much, is so flexible and works so well as the Hyper-V. I would not hesitate, for me the Hyper-V is a reason enough to invest in Windows 8 Pro.

    Other geeks might have other opinion.

    VirtualBox and VMware Player work well on Windows 8.

    Windows XP 2005 Media Center Edition running full screen on secondary display on Windows 8 Hyper-V virtual machine:

    Click image for larger version

    Kari
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  5. #5


    Thanks Kari. As things run under a virtual machine do I need to think about a faster processor. I started looking at i3 (Ivy bridge) processors but now wonder about an i5.

    As a separate question is Windows 8 actually any better the 7. I have heard that a lot of people don't like it. If I decide to not go the Pro route (due to cost) I need to decide if I use 7 or 8 (and use Virtual Box or VMware Player).

    Steve
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  6. #6


    A Finnish ex-pat in Leipzig, Germany
    Posts : 1,452
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    When you read these forums, you'll notice that there's a real hate campaign against Windows 8. I am certainly wrong person to answer this question for I really like 8 and have made it very clear, here and elsewhere. But really, posting this opinion here will again cause some negative feedback and messages, so I am not too willing to discuss about the pros and cons of Windows 8. The consensus is that you are not allowed to say anything positive about Windows 8 or you will be considered a Microsoft fanboy who knows nothing.

    Post your question about 7 or 8 here and you will see what I mean.

    But, as I have already said enough to get some negative feedback, I can repeat that for me Windows 8 Pro with Hyper-V is the only thinkable system. I would never go back to Seven, having fast, reliable and easy to use Eight installed on every computer I have.

    If you select Windows 7, get a Professional or Ultimate edition to be able to use Microsoft Virtual PC and the free Windows XP Mode, a fully working Windows XP Pro SP3 virtual machine running on Virtual PC Microsoft offers for free for 7 Pro and Ultimate users.

    About my opinion: Frank Shaw (MS) Staying centered

    Kari
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  7. #7


    Posts : 959
    Windows 8.1, 10


    Hi SteveCh,

    If you're (a) in the UK and (b) looking to upgrade an existing older version of Windows then certainly don't buy the basic Windows 8 (non-Pro) upgrade - because the Windows 8 Pro upgrade (which has more features) is half the price!

    The likes of Currys/ PC World have the Windows 8 Pro upgrade at 49.99 (if you order online and collect in store) but the bog-standard Windows 8 (without the Pro features) is 99. Amazon prices were similar last time I looked a few days ago.
    MICROSOFT Windows 8 Pro Deals | Pcworld
    MICROSOFT Windows 8 - Upgrade Version Deals | Pcworld

    This has been true for a while and makes no sense... but is worth knowing.

    Incidentally you might find that if you install Windows 8-32 bit version, some 16-bit software may still work if you set compatibility options, but I wouldn't guarantee it.
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  8. #8


    Hi Dave,
    I'm looking at buying a whole new machine so an upgrade is not on the cards. I'll get it preinstalled.
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  9. #9


    One thing I do need for my legacy software is to have access to a USB device. Will Hyper-V support USB?
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  10. #10


    A Finnish ex-pat in Leipzig, Germany
    Posts : 1,452
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    Simple answer is no. Read more here: Hyper-V - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    A bit more complicated answer: USB drives, yes. USB dongles, no. If you have for instance a USB based encryption or other security system, you will not be able to use it on a Hyper-V virtual machine.

    If you mean USB drives, they can be attached to a Hyper-V with a workaround which includes removing the drive letter and setting the drive offline on host, then attaching it on vm as a physical drive using vm settings.

    Naturally the vm can share host's USB drives and printers.
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Legacy software - newbie question
Related Threads
Hello! I use a really really old music production mastering software called t-racks 24 which I'm dependant on and I don't want to buy a new version because of this. I really like the old version and see no reason to stop using it. Considering it being so old I wouldn't expect any support from...
Hi all... I read somewhere that Windows 8.x doesn't really close desktop apps but sends them to the background (unlike previous Windows versions) and not all apps give an "X" or close and a clean remove from RAM option... which stops me in my tracks a little - on my older Windows laptop I have...
Solved newbie question.... again in Browsers & Mail
How do I get out of one website and still remain on Internet Explorer ? I mean, I can get out of Internet Explorer and go back to desktop. But, when I click IE, I am right back to the page I was at. Very irritating. Felt like I am back as a computer beginner. t-4-2
Solved newbie question again in Virtualization
I am somewhat annoyed by the unfamiliar term...... Metro. In simple English, what in the blazes is Metro, or metro interface or metro ui etc ? t-4-2
Solved Win 8 newbie question --- MSE in System Security
I have MSE installed in my host OS. Do I still have to install MSE in the guest OS ? Or one will cover both ? Thank you. t-4-2
Solved newbie question in Virtualization
I have just installed Win 8 Preview 32-bit into VMware . I have absolutelyno idea to use it. Absolute Newbie. For now, just one question.... When I wanted to get ou of Win 8, I clicked the X at top right. I would have a message asking me to confirm if I want to " suspend "the virtual machine...
Hello, Just registered today. I did so because I would like to know what does it take to use Windows 8. I am more or less competent in computer, but know nothing about Win 8. Would someone please give me the " 101 " ? Thank you. t-4-2
Eight Forums Android App Eight Forums IOS App Follow us on Facebook