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  1. #11


    I actually mean neither of these! I develope software for microcontrollers and the development software uses a proprietary USB programmer. the drivers for which are usually loaded during part of the development software installation process (under XP). It is not seen by the OS as a drive, just another USB device.

    If Hyper-V does not do this then is this support available in any of the third party VMs?

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  2. #12


    A Finnish ex-pat in Leipzig, Germany
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    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    I am quite sure it will not work on Hyper-V, although it is impossible to tell without thorough testing it first.

    You are running an XP system now? You could do some tests already, download and install VirtualBox on your XP host, install an XP virtual machine on VirtualBox and test if your USB will work on it.
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  3. #13


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    Windows 8 x64


    Vmware workstation will virtualise usb's from the Host machine to the guests' and other hardware using windows 8 as the host. It is expensive, but worth it, I use it for some legacy apps and it works quite well (vmware workstation version 9 is the latest).

    Another thing (instead of virtualising) you could always just install your legacy apps in compatibility mode - this often works quite well. I did this with an XP sound driver installation on a windows 7 computer for a very old pc hardware with no support for a newer OS, a bit of fiddling to setup but it works fine. That way you could run your machine natively without having to open up a VM whenever you require it.
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  4. #14


    So if Hyper-V will not support my USB device what othe VM software will? Alex, I note what you say but isn't VMware Player a free cut down version of workstation? I am trying Virtual Box on my wifes Windows 7 laptop but have not got the USB device to be recognised yet. So I'll maybe try VMware Player. What about Virtual PC?
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  5. #15


    Orbiting the Moon
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    Windows 10 x64


    Hyper-V should work with most USB devices and it's more recent than Virtual PC.
    VMware Player should recognize the USB (and the most USB's) pretty well. Virtual PC is pretty old and Win8 doesn't support it. If it works with USB, then some of the devices wouldn't be fully recognized; this is an issue that VirtualBox has as well, however I prefer VirtualBox for it's speed.
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  6. #16


    Hafnarfjörður IS
    Posts : 4,376
    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Hi there
    for hardware USB programming - I'm going against the HYPER-V crowd here --- HYPER-V is really intended (or was designed) to run on SERVERS - where USB support isn't usually important.
    Virtual machines I've created with VMware workstation that use some very old legacy USB devices seem to work straight out of the box.

    I still have an excellent Minidisc professional (real studio quality) deck which is used to stream music into my multi-media server -- I'm using an XP VM for the Minidisc hardware to work -- works fine. I also have some things like old HP plotters / line drawing equipment etc etc.

    I doubt that I could even THINK of getting any of this to work on VM's created on HYPER-V. I did try a while ago and it wasn't successful.

    With XP and VMware workstation the USB is simply allocated to the VM - the Host OS doesn't have to do ANYTHING with it other than know that your machine is fitted with USB slots.

    The code can then be written in the VM for handling the interaction between hardware and USB. (Just like writing drivers for XP)

    (Should also work in the FREE VMWARE workstation too) .

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  7. #17


    Well, I've had an IT expert (my son-in-law who was visiting this weekend) look at this and he has got VMware Player working great with my USB debug hardware, so that seems to have sorted that. He uses VMware a lot. Thanks for all your advice. I can now go ahead and order up my new laptop with Win 8.
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  8. #18


    Hafnarfjörður IS
    Posts : 4,376
    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Quote Originally Posted by SteveCh View Post
    Well, I've had an IT expert (my son-in-law who was visiting this weekend) look at this and he has got VMware Player working great with my USB debug hardware, so that seems to have sorted that. He uses VMware a lot. Thanks for all your advice. I can now go ahead and order up my new laptop with Win 8.
    Hi there
    Glad to be of service

    VMware player is a great FREE product -- however I use VMware workstation as I get it supplied by work !!!. The main problem with the Hyper-V solution is that it really is designed more for servers and corporate type users so things like specialized hardware access via USB etc aren't so well (if at all) supported as with VMware .

    Cheers
    jimbo
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