How to stop child account accessing the store?

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Shockingly I've had numerous problems with windows family safety, with my 7 year old being able to hack their system several times and find work arounds to access any sites online (amongst other things), despite this functionality being switched off for his account under microsoft family safety. I have (hopefully) plugged all the holes in the system (which I've found are a fairly common problem and a well known issue by microsoft) but I still can't find a way to prevent him from being able to download games/apps etc. from the store. Surely there must be a way to do this???
 

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PS: I should have mentioned there appears to be no way to do this under the family safety settings. You can only block specific age games and specific apps, but weirdly there's nothing to stop them downloading new ones and accessing them.
 

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Unless/until your youngster internalizes your values and self-enforces your values, this will be a chess game for some time.
 

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He already has good values (I'd even go so far as to say exceptionally good for his age), however it's all too easy for a youngster to succumb to temptation and naivety also leaves him vulnerable. He's just a young child whom I'm trying to protect and it has nothing to do with him internalizing and enforcing my values.
 

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Just tell him not to download things - or else.
 

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All well and good, but that doesn't guarantee his protection. I just don't understand why it isn't possible???
 

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Thanks, however it's access to the store I want to block rather than the internet per se. I'm already able to restrict internet access via browsers but that doesn't stop him from downloading anything he wants from the store.
 

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Hello EFuser,

If you like, you can use the tutorial below to disable the Store.

http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/5804-store-enable-disable-windows-8-a.html

In addition, enable the built-in Administrator account, password protect it, and then disable the built-in Administrator. This way he won't be able to use it if he should enable it somehow since it's password protected.

http://www.eightforums.com/tutorial...rator-account-enable-disable-windows-8-a.html

http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/13315-local-account-password-change-remove-windows-8-a.html

Hope this helps, :)
Shawn
 
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Brilliant! I haven't tried it yet but it looks like a simple case of editing the registry under his account should do the trick (I still want access for other users). Thank you!!!
:thumb:
 

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He already has good values (I'd even go so far as to say exceptionally good for his age), however it's all too easy for a youngster to succumb to temptation and naivety also leaves him vulnerable. He's just a young child whom I'm trying to protect and it has nothing to do with him internalizing and enforcing my values.
I figured he was absorbing a lot of your values! I meant by gentle exhortation and kind reinforcement of good values, you will more and more insulate him from the pulls of youngsters at school and at other houses & apartments who are not as solid as your son :)
 

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Thanks, however it's access to the store I want to block rather than the internet per se. I'm already able to restrict internet access via browsers but that doesn't stop him from downloading anything he wants from the store.
It blocks all network applications, not just browsers, you can use it as an addition to the family filter.
You can use familyshield only, it is pre-configured DNS, that also blocks proxies, which can bypass filters.
 

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    6GB DDR3 1333MHz
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    AMD Radeon HD 6480G 512MB shared
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    Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Surround 5.1
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    1366x768
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    WD 465GB
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    Fusion Tweaker
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Maybe this article can help to:
From How-to-Geek--Completely Protect Your Windows PC with Microsoft Family Safety
App Restrictions
Apps are a big part of using a computer. Whether it’s a browser, or media player, or a word processor, a computer is still hands down the best way to get stuff done. But you don’t want your kids to be able to use any old app. Using app restrictions you can easily allow or block any and all (if you really wanted) apps on your computer you deem unfit for kid use.
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If you want to simply hone in on one app, you can search for it, which sure saves time if you have a ton of apps on your system and you’re just looking for one or two to block
 

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Thanks Roland, though whilst I agree with you, it doesn't mean he will be safe online and I still want to restrict access.
 

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TairikuOkami, with your suggestion can you restrict access to the store for a single user account whilst still leaving them online access (e.g. via a browser) and all other users retaining full access to everything too? I shouldn't need that now (though I still haven't tried out the registry changes yet as not been around to get on the laptop) but interesting to know as you never know when such info might come in handy. And thanks btw.
 

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Cliff, thanks for the link, however I've already tried all that. Weirdly Microsoft family safety doesn't include the ability to restrict access to the store, nor can it prevent any user (including child) from downloading whatever apps they want, which is a major oversight on their part.
 

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Cliff, thanks for the link, however I've already tried all that. Weirdly Microsoft family safety doesn't include the ability to restrict access to the store, nor can it prevent any user (including child) from downloading whatever apps they want, which is a major oversight on their part.
OK good to know for future reference.
The kids learn to use PCs early. A friend of mines 3 1/2 year old can boot and play his kiddie game, and he learned it by just watching daddy do it a few times.
 

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Yes, they learn fast! It's shocking that my 7 year old was able to hack Microsoft's family safety setup in several different ways. And as I mentioned earlier, he's not the only one, it's a common problem, yet Microsoft have still failed to plug the holes - major fail on something so important!!!
 

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Perhaps in order for Microsoft to be able to plug holes, Microsoft would have to be a lot more invasive, and create software a lot more invasive. I'm just straw-grasping. Do you really want Microsoft to be a co-parent with youse all? :)
 

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    Laptops GameWorthy; Desktop maybe GameWorthy
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    flatscreens; 2 are BluRay worthy
    Screen Resolution
    1368x768; 1600x900
    Hard Drives
    1TB internals; 2 ext usb WD 1TB HDs
    PSU
    what's PSU?
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    Regular plus external fans
    Keyboard
    desktio w/PS2
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