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  1. #20


    Gurgaon
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    Windows 8.1 Single Language


    Hi Adam,

    You had said that the Pagefile and Hyberfil files are backed, but it appears that the Registry Files are not backed. Had that been done then the configurations carried out on the various Programs would not have disappeared when restoring the .win Image.

    Supposing I back up the Registry files immediately before or after creating the .wim Image and restore the same after restoring .wim Image then shouldn't all the configurations be back? Just a thought, but I would love to have your expert opinion..

    Amarnath Wanchoo

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  2. #21


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    Windows 10 Pro Prieview x64


    Quote Originally Posted by junglee View Post
    Hi Adam,

    You had said that the Pagefile and Hyberfil files are backed, but it appears that the Registry Files are not backed. Had that been done then the configurations carried out on the various Programs would not have disappeared when restoring the .win Image.

    Supposing I back up the Registry files immediately before or after creating the .wim Image and restore the same after restoring .wim Image then shouldn't all the configurations be back? Just a thought, but I would love to have your expert opinion..

    Amarnath Wanchoo
    Why do you think that? You can open a .wim with 7-zip and have a look. Registry is stored in SYSTEM file in system32 - that is backed up. The problem is that recimg pointlessly backs up hyberfil.sys (almost 8gb in my case as I have 8gb memory) and pagefile.sys (about 1.3GB in my case). You don't really need this for a backup but you do have to remember to change it back after restoring.
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  3. #22


    Gurgaon
    Posts : 56
    Windows 8.1 Single Language


    Thanks Adam. If an exact copy of the Registry is included in the .wim Image then why do the configuration tweaks not restored with the Image. Most of then are just Registry tweaks? I do not have 7-zip which I am aware in free, because I have been using WinRar for ages. WinRar doesn't recognize a .wim file.

    Amarnath
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  4. #23


    Posts : 1,875
    Windows 10 Pro Prieview x64


    OK, that is 2 questions.

    1st question: 7-Zip is free because the developer decided so. WinRar is not free and (I find) annoying as not only you have to pay for it but you can't change even the installation language. If you like it and you are happy using it in Portuguese or whatever then carry on.

    2nd Question: No. You misunderstand. When you run the recimg.exe command it saves some directories. You would like to think this would only be C:\Windows, C:\Programfiles and C:\ProgramFiles (x86). There is no sensible reason to do so but it does save hyberfil.sys (which is a copy of your RAM), pagefile.sys (generally a bit smaller) and swapfile.sys (generally very small). These last 3 are pointless from a backup point of view so you can remove them before running recimg if you want. It is of course up to you but my CustomRefresh.wim is a bit less than 7 GB. I would have to add another 15GB if I included hyberfil.sys.
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  5. #24


    Gurgaon
    Posts : 56
    Windows 8.1 Single Language


    I consulted an Expert on Registry about the problem of configuration tweaks not being restored when the backed up Registry was restored. He replied as follows.

    "The registry is contained in 4 files. These are SYSTEM, SOFTWARE, SAM & SECURITY.
    You said that SYSTEM is backed up. If SOFTWARE is not backed up then that would explain the situation."

    His reply would make sense if the other three Registry files and especially SOFTWARE, are not backed up.

    Amarnath Wanchoo

    Quote Originally Posted by adamf View Post
    OK, that is 2 questions.

    1st question: 7-Zip is free because the developer decided so. WinRar is not free and (I find) annoying as not only you have to pay for it but you can't change even the installation language. If you like it and you are happy using it in Portuguese or whatever then carry on.

    2nd Question: No. You misunderstand. When you run the recimg.exe command it saves some directories. You would like to think this would only be C:\Windows, C:\Programfiles and C:\ProgramFiles (x86). There is no sensible reason to do so but it does save hyberfil.sys (which is a copy of your RAM), pagefile.sys (generally a bit smaller) and swapfile.sys (generally very small). These last 3 are pointless from a backup point of view so you can remove them before running recimg if you want. It is of course up to you but my CustomRefresh.wim is a bit less than 7 GB. I would have to add another 15GB if I included hyberfil.sys.
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  6. #25


    Posts : 1,875
    Windows 10 Pro Prieview x64


    It would make sense. It isn't true though as they are backed up.
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  7. #26


    I used 7-Zip beta to look at the image I created and it definitely shows all the registry files (highlighted in blue in this pic):

    Click image for larger version
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  8. #27


    Gurgaon
    Posts : 56
    Windows 8.1 Single Language


    Thanks a lot Ztruker for the trouble you have taken and saved me from installing 7-zip.
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  9. #28


    You're welcome. I was curious. I had to move up to the beta version of 7-Zip as the current released version would not open .wim files.
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  10. #29


    Posts : 5,360
    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    What makes you think they are complete? Can you find NTUSER.DAT?

    The registry is contained in 4 files
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