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System Image - Create in Windows 8

  1. #80


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    You're welcome b100d.

    Sorry, but no. You will not be able to restore a system image from a USB flash drive.

    I wouldn't recommend moving a system image as well to avoid the potential of not being able to restore it. They are real sensitive to any corruption.

    I agree that Macrium Reflect is another good option.

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  2. #81


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    Windows 8 Pro x64


    I have a question about this part, if I may. Under Option 1:
    If a system image was created through Windows Backup on an automatic schedule with the Include a System Image of Drives box checked, then you can set Windows to retain as many system images as it has space for on the backup disk or to only keep the most recent system image. (...)
    By default, Windows automatically saves as many system images as it has space for without taking up more than 30 percent of available space on the backup disk. Once the disk starts running out of room, Windows will automatically delete older system images to make room for the new system image.
    That doesn't seem to work on my PC, it only keeps one version, the last one. Where do you set that? If I click the link 'can set' I see this

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    but although it says "Select how Windows retains older system images" these two options hardly enable you to keep more than one image, especially the last one.

    On my PC the window looks different:

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    but with a maximum of 27.94 GB and 67 GB on the C: drive, not even one image would fit! (the drive where the image is backed up to is 3 TB with 2.1 TB free space.)

    What's going on?
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  3. #82


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    Hello Guiri,

    That's only if you have a system image included to be created while you are creating a Windows Backup instead.

    Backup Files in Windows 8


    To be able to keep multiple copies of system images using the tutorial on the first page instead of with Windows Backup, you could need to use the workaround in the yellow TIP box at the top of the tutorial on the first page here.

    Hope this helps,
    Shawn
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  4. #83


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    Windows 8 Pro x64


    Quote Originally Posted by Brink View Post
    Hello Guiri,

    That's only if you have a system image included to be created while you are creating a Windows Backup instead.
    Sorry, maybe I am slow today but I still don't understand. Yes, I am talking about the situation where I include a system image with a normal backup. But you write: "If a system image was created through Windows Backup on an automatic schedule with the Include a System Image of Drives box checked, then you can set Windows to retain as many system images as it has space for on the backup disk." I don't see how, except for the workaround. Not via OPTION ONE.

    Even Windows itself says "Select how Windows retains older system images" but then you can select between
    a) only one image or
    b) delete all images
    in your screenshot (in my opinion that means 0 or 1 image) and in my screenshot:
    a) leave it up to Windows (with a maximum in GB that is not even enough for one(!) image) or
    b) keep only the latest.

    How can I set to retain e.g. the last 5 images?
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  5. #84


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    64-bit Windows 10


    Yeah, it's a bit of a catch 22 isn't it.

    That's why I use the rename method in the TIP box. It's a much more reliable way to keep multiple system images without worrying about them being deleted.
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  6. #85


    Posts : 28
    Windows 8 Pro x64


    Quote Originally Posted by Brink View Post
    Yeah, it's a bit of a catch 22 isn't it.

    That's why I use the rename method in the TIP box. It's a much more reliable way to keep multiple system images without worrying about them being deleted.
    OK, but what made you write "If a system image was created through Windows Backup on an automatic schedule with the Include a System Image of Drives box checked, then you can set Windows to retain as many system images as it has space for on the backup disk." then? Was it a preview copy you based this on and Microsoft changed it later?
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  7. #86


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    No. It applies to all current Windows 8 editions. I was saying that it was a catch 22 for you instead.

    By default, when system images are included in a scheduled backup to be created, Windows automatically saves as many system images as it has space for without taking up more than 30 percent of available free space on the selected backup partition/volume. Once the disk starts running out of room, Windows will automatically delete older system images to make room for the new system image. You can set Windows to retain as many system images as it has space for on the backup disk or to only keep the most recent system image.

    Backups - View and Manage Space in Windows 8
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  8. #87


    Posts : 28
    Windows 8 Pro x64


    Quote Originally Posted by Brink View Post
    No. It applies to all current Windows 8 editions. I was saying that it was a catch 22 for you instead.

    By default, when system images are included in a scheduled backup to be created, Windows automatically saves as many system images as it has space for without taking up more than 30 percent of available free space on the selected backup partition/volume. Once the disk starts running out of room, Windows will automatically delete older system images to make room for the new system image. You can set Windows to retain as many system images as it has space for on the backup disk or to only keep the most recent system image.
    OK, that is clear but then please help me with this:

    My system disk C: is 238 GB (I deleted the hibernation file so now 54 GB is occupied and 184 GB is free) Please see next screen shot:

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    A system image would then be 54 GB and worst-case 238 GB, correct?

    So suppose it is now 54 GB and together with the 'normal' previous backup data, the total backup size on D: is apparently 61.37 GB (12.92 + 48.45(?)). See next screen shot.

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    I have more than 2 TB free on my backup drive D: as you saw in the first and second screen shot. Then why is it saving only one system image on my drive and does it say that the maximum is 27.94 GB?

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    2 TB free on D: means (if Windows only wants to occupy 30% of that, let's say 650 GB) it should at least be able to keep 12 system images, no? Where do I go wrong in my thinking? Where does the 27.94 come from?
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  9. #88


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    I agree with that, and something is indeed not correct with the math.

    Please go ahead and post a screenshot of Disk Management showing the full layout of the D drive to see if something may show as a reason why it's not letting you use the full amount of free space that you should have available.

    I have a few questions or items to check to see if they may be part of the issue. If yes to any of them, then that would be more free space that has been allocated for it, and no longer available for use by anything else.

    1. Did you move any user folders or profiles to D?
    2. Did you move the page file to D?
    3. Do you have System Protection turned on for D?



    In addition, what do have the maximum usage for system protection set to?

    System Protection - Change Maximum Disk Space Usage in Windows 8
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  10. #89


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    Windows 8 Pro x64


    Thanks for your time Shawn!

    Quote Originally Posted by Brink View Post
    I agree with that, and something is indeed not correct with the math.

    Please go ahead and post a screenshot of Disk Management showing the full layout of the D drive to see if something may show as a reason why it's not letting you use the full amount of free space that you should have available.
    Here's DM:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brink View Post
    I have a few questions or items to check to see if they may be part of the issue. If yes to any of them, then that would be more free space that has been allocated for it, and no longer available for use by anything else.

    1. Did you move any user folders or profiles to D?
    2. Did you move the page file to D?
    3. Do you have System Protection turned on for D?
    1. No, I didn't, everything is still on C:
    2. Yes, I did. The page file is 5,627,904 KB, hopefully never used with 16 GB of RAM.

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    3. No, not on D:, only on C:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brink View Post
    In addition, what do have the maximum usage for system protection set to?
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    In addition to all that, I also moved C:'s FileHistory to D: - currently 1.52 GB.
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