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Windows 8 To Go - Setup on a USB Flash Drive or USB Disk

  1. #30


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    As I said, there were problems with the 32bit. Why don't you install a 64bit Win8 in Virtual Box and go from there. You will need a Win8 installation anyhow to transfer the bootfiles. You can still make the setup in Win7, but the last step with the above command you'll have to do in your Virtual Box Win8. That's how I do it. All you have to do then is to enable the stick for the Virtual Box.

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  2. #31


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    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    As I said, there were problems with the 32bit. Why don't you install a 64bit Win8 in Virtual Box and go from there. You will need a Win8 installation anyhow to transfer the bootfiles. You can still make the setup in Win7, but the last step with the above command you'll have to do in your Virtual Box Win8. That's how I do it. All you have to do then is to enable the stick for the Virtual Box.
    but i can't run a 64-bit Virtual Box when my host OS is 32-bit. ugh! maybe i'll just try this on a USB hard drive instead of a flash drive.
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  3. #32


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    When finally cleaning off all of the 8 files from a 32gb flash I have been using to back things up from the direct install to drive copy I went for the Virtual CloneDrive only to find you need a downloader installed first. Once that was seen to the download of the V CD program didn't download and install by itself! 4 other programs like toast went on despite unchecking all of the addons for toolbars and other things!

    You might want to update the download link for the Virtual CloneDrive with the home site's own page seen at SlySoft Virtual CloneDrive

    Not having any USB 3.0 flash drives quite yet as well as not having a 3.0 hub to use rather then reaching around the back of the cabinet to reach in or squeeze by the side of the case to reach around back to feel for the two 3.0 ports on the main board I am using the 32gb 2.0 flash drive to see how that will perform since not too many will have 3.0 FDs at this due to the high prices seen.

    For anyone looking for any 32gb flash drive I can add here I found a bargain on Kingston DT 32gb models at buy.com when checking prices all over. They ran about $20-$30 less there then at other sites. 11% after 10min. from entering the install command to be followed by the last step of making the flash drive bootable by creation of the BCD store for a go. oops! 15% while typing that!

    VM Player 4.02 for the W8 CP or create a VHD and install it there! VBox isn't suitable for the CP I found when first downloading it. Plus VBox generally runs the 32bit.

    UPDATE: So how did the USB 2.0 Flash drive install go? All went sssslowww.. as you might expect taking some 75min. 25sec. to unpack/transfer files over to the 32gb Kingston Data Traveler 160 but also to see a surprize of dual wallpapers on each monitor as the user files and settings went along too!.

    Problem? Upon starting the install of various things like the MS optical software which failed to install lacking certain files until Windows updates are gathered up the startup today resulted in the first 'Windows 8 CP Blue Screen of Death"! The 45min "Getting Devices Ready, Getting System Ready" process had all gone well along with seeing the Start menu 7 app applied along with a few other things.

    The next startup however ran right into a hardware code error. No known hardware issues detected but have to review the memory dump file on that.

    Second Update: Apparently that was only to happen when first going to power up the system. Upon a reboot out of the 7 host later on the CP install loaded right up as if nothing had happened with no memory dump file to find. Some more fresh starts and reboots into that install should reveal if any actual problems are present.
    Last edited by Night Hawk; 26 Apr 2012 at 21:21. Reason: Additional information
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  4. #33


    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    Quote Originally Posted by sskassam View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    As I said, there were problems with the 32bit. Why don't you install a 64bit Win8 in Virtual Box and go from there. You will need a Win8 installation anyhow to transfer the bootfiles. You can still make the setup in Win7, but the last step with the above command you'll have to do in your Virtual Box Win8. That's how I do it. All you have to do then is to enable the stick for the Virtual Box.
    but i can't run a 64-bit Virtual Box when my host OS is 32-bit. ugh! maybe i'll just try this on a USB hard drive instead of a flash drive.
    Hi there
    provided you have the Intel / AMD Virtualisation feature switched oln in the BIOS - YOU CAN (at least in vmware) Run a 64 BIT Virtual machine on a 32 bit Host. (one of the wonders of virtualisation).

    However your VM plus HOST RAM will not see anything over 4GB (might be enough for testing anyway).

    I've run a 64 bit W7 VM on an XP Host !!.


    Another thing also W8 supports .iso files directly in Windows explorer -- no need for "Virtual clone drive" etc in W8 any more.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  5. #34


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    I believe that is the same in Virtual Box.
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  6. #35


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    When trying out VBox with the 64bit 7 RC at the time you could only run a 32bit XP, Vista, or 7 RC VM. VM Player allows for the 64bit Guest OS as it is referred to.

    This was confirmed lately with the W8 CP x64 VM on the 64bit 7 host here. I gave up on VBox when after some time when going to start a VM it would simply fail to load requiring a totally VM for the same thing while VM Player not only maintains the VMs but offers a far better set of tools for mounting external HDs and flash drives.

    The flash drive install was first mentioned in one blog awhile back after the DP was first out. When an install to a VHD failed running into a familiar error seen with the DP previously the flash drive install was the next step here which ran into a fluke of some type not seen since. So far the boot up time is reasonable on the USB 2.0 flash drive while not the ideal.
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  7. #36


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    Windows 8 in vBox is currently my main W8 system. It runs great and is sooo convenient.

    I am not sure I understand what your problems were.
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  8. #37


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    It also depends on whcih VBox you go with. The full version is the Oracle VirtualBox while the freebie most see would be the Portable VBox which is limited on what it supports.

    With VM Player while you commonly see the freeware most go with you can also get a full paid version which offers quite a bit more support and features. The main difference I found when working with the VMLite workstation for the XP Mode and later the VM Player over VBox is the instant usb support while VBox was having problems simply accessing the dvd burner if not booting to set up a new VM there.

    With VM Player I can instantly mount either or both the drive in a fan cooled usb enclosure or any flash drive as well as disconnect from the VM back to the host OS with ease. In fast the XP Mode is running on the VMLite Workstation on the CP while the VPC of course was written strictly for 7 following the VPC 2007 mainly for Vista.

    I had VBox on here for the longest time from the 7 RC releases until the continuing loss of VM after not loading them for so long and the need to keep reinstalling each OS all over again. A clean install once in awhile is no biggie while only having each VM last a week or two and fail to load afterwards?

    When replacing the VM Player 4.0 version Dec. 2011 for the newer 4.02 Feb. 2012 release I still was able to run the Linux VM having saved that one while needing a fresh CP install due to the 4.0's coding error problem for the VM Tools not connecting online. Despite that issue others were running into as well all other VMs worked out well and last. Simple formula if it's broke from the start replace it like I did with VBox.
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  9. #38


    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    Hi there
    just my experience -- If I'm using Windows on the HOST then VMware is my choice of Virtualisation. I use VMware workstation but the free VMware player is probably enough for most people. I tried VBOX but for various reasons just didn't like it -- I had to fiddle around too much -- VMware (usually) ran ist time.

    For Linux HOSTS then the free VBOX seems to possibly be a better bet -- especially if you like using the latest kernels etc since you can compile the modules into the latest sources. Sometimes VMware takes a little while in catching up with the latest Linux releases.

    However with Windows 8 I've been looking at and testing HYPER-V. This seems to run VM's just fine and efficiently but tends to have some side effects on the HOST machine when you want to play DVD's / other VISUAL multi-media --- audio is fine.

    I've temporarily abandoned HYPER-V until I can get the video issue sorted out. This won't be a problem if using HYPER-V on a server but this feature was offered on a DESKTOP OS and these days running a desktop OS without decent multi-media support is like Fish'n Chips with no chips or finding a pub with no beer.

    (Symptoms were VLC player on HOST just gave BLANK screen on DVD playng -- Audio worked fine even on DVD's. Uninstalled HYPER-V - DVD playing etc worked just fine again. I did try all the de-interlace etc type of options too on the video streams -- no joy).

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  10. #39


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    From what I was running into with VBox and the Portable VBox was the same for any Linux VMs as well as the ones for XP, Vista, and 7 while running the RCs. With the free VM Player each new VM simply lasts and can still unused for as long as that version of the player is being used without the need to create a new one.

    The ability to instantly mount the external HD or flash drive on the go is another plus side there as well. The VMLite workstation also provided the integrated components support with the XP Mode allowing direct access to all physical drives which would be the norm for the XP Mode if the 2009 VPC also was able to run on 8 as well as it had on 7.

    Despite the CP VM and the direct install to the second OS drive here used for testing the 2.0 flash drive install makes 8 portable if you want to show someone else what 8 will be like without anything installed on the next machine. Note a USB 2.0 self powered 4 port hub is also in use and still sees the CP loading up and running normally despite the initial glitch seen with a cold start not a reboot at the time of the system into the flash drive install.

    The reboot out of 7 later after running the 8 VM saw a normal startup suggesting it was most likely a driver loading sideways where all it needed was a restart to load normally. It sounds like something simply hadn't finished installing when that was seen.
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