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User Profiles - Relocate to another Partition or Disk

  1. #390


    Posts : 1
    windows 8


    Hi all
    Ive tried completing these steps that seem to help everyone, but I am stuck. After the final reboot, the users folder remains unchanged. I dont get any errors during the process. Ive tried using the actual download xml file, just changed the drive letter to d: as thats my second hdd.
    Any troubleshooting ideas?
    I'm using a fujitsu ultrabook that came with windows 8 pre installed. I changed the secure boot to N also.
    Any ideas would be appreciated.
    Thanks!

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  2. #391


    A Finnish ex-pat in Leipzig, Germany
    Posts : 1,452
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    Hi Wwitte, welcome to the Eight Forums.

    There are two possible explanations.

    Explanation 1:
    One or more parameters on answer file are wrong.

    Solution:
    Check the Notes after the lines 4, 6 and 10 in step 2.1 in this tutorial.
    Click image for larger version

    Explanation 2:
    You are still in Audit Mode. When you give the sysprep command as told in step 2.2.1 in this tutorial, the Windows returns to Audit Mode. The folder Users has not been moved yet, the system has only prepared the move. The move (relocation) itself only happens when you boot normally after exiting the Audit Mode.

    Solution:
    Exit the Audit Mode as told in step 2.3. After the so called OOBE boot the Users folder has been moved.

    If all the parameters are correct as told in Explanation 1 above, and if you are using a valid original Microsoft Windows 8 / 8.1 install media, it works.

    Kari
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  3. #392


    Posts : 6
    Win8


    Hi Kari,

    I am using your way of having separated partitions for programs and data since one year and I am quite fine. Only now I'd really like to get the windows store working again. Do you now of a way to get both, two partitions and the store working? Perhaps there are any new explorations in this case?

    Best regard
    Seb
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  4. #393


    Posts : 1
    Windows 8 Pro


    Kari,

    Sorry if you've already answered this (could you direct me to where you have, if so), but I want to upgrade to W8.1 and I need to unrelocate (or rerelocate, depending on how you look at it) my User folders.
    My problem seems to be editing the .xml script that tells Windows to relocate to my second HDD.
    Is there a better way to do this? Something I'm missing?

    An answer would be really appreciated!
    Thanks!
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  5. #394


    A Finnish ex-pat in Leipzig, Germany
    Posts : 1,452
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    Quote Originally Posted by Seb View Post
    Hi Kari,

    I am using your way of having separated partitions for programs and data since one year and I am quite fine. Only now I'd really like to get the windows store working again. Do you now of a way to get both, two partitions and the store working? Perhaps there are any new explorations in this case?

    Best regard
    Seb
    You have to move the ProgramData folder back to C:, the Users folder can remain on another drive. Run sysprep again, exactly as told in the tutorial but edit the information between the <FolderLocations> tags (lines 5 to 7) so that it looks like this:
    Code:
    <FolderLocations>
    <ProgramData>C:\ProgramData</ProgramData>
    </FolderLocations>
    Quote Originally Posted by ScottThePilgrim View Post
    Kari,

    Sorry if you've already answered this (could you direct me to where you have, if so), but I want to upgrade to W8.1 and I need to unrelocate (or rerelocate, depending on how you look at it) my User folders.
    My problem seems to be editing the .xml script that tells Windows to relocate to my second HDD.
    Is there a better way to do this? Something I'm missing?

    An answer would be really appreciated!
    Thanks!
    See my response to Seb above, in your case you have to edit <FolderLocations> tags to look like this:
    Code:
    <FolderLocations>
    <ProfilesDirectory>C:\Users</ProfilesDirectory>
    </FolderLocations>
    After the upgrade you can no longer move the Users folder back to your data drive; an upgraded Windows cannot be sysprepped.

    Kari
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  6. #395


    Posts : 2
    8.1 Pro

    About Windows store


    Hello Kari,

    I've read your tutorial with great interest, I've used to move media folder and Documents to drive d: for years but reading your tutorial and the fact that I purchased 8.1 Pro and an SSD drive convinced me that moving my user completely is a better choice, keeping the small size SSD for programs only.

    Before I'm going to do a fresh install and follow your tutorial I've one question to follow Seb's post #392 regarding Microsoft store, is seb's issue with Microsoft store a private case of his system or is there an issue with Microsoft store caused by moving the whole user to D: in general?

    Many thanks in advance.

    David
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  7. #396


    Posts : 2
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Ooops... I'm just in the process of a new PC build, Win8.1 Pro, SSD etc. etc. you know the story. After the initial base install and a look around 8.1pro, I went for move as described in the post! Perhaps a little prematurely - all was fine, worked a treat, or so I thought...

    Now that I'm doing retrospective reading, there seems to be a lot of issues with this whole thing (inc. MS explicitly saying it's a bad idea and not supported). That aside, my immediate issue is this, I had two accounts set up - mine and one for my wife. Mine seems to be working fine, I transferred GB's of data back from the external backup on to my new Videos/Pictures/Music folders etc. - I even installed MS Office. However, when I then started to turn my attention to my other account - when I tried logon / switch users, it says: "The User Profile Service service failed the sign-in", "User profile cannot be loaded".

    I've tried removing and recreating the account, but thus far it's not looking good. Apologies if this is already covered in the 40 pages of comment - a search didn't turn it up (will keep looking). Interestingly, when I go to add a new account, it does not create a corresponding Users folder either.

    Any suggestions before I reinstall and resort to less-than-perfect approaches?

    Thanks in advance..

    Anthony..
    <<EDIT: I now see I'm not the only one with this issue >>
    Last edited by Footleg; 05 Feb 2014 at 06:52.
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  8. #397


    A Finnish ex-pat in Leipzig, Germany
    Posts : 1,452
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    David and Footleg, welcome to the Eight Forums.

    Having a bit time issues at the moment, here shortly some pointers:
    • Windows Store and Store Apps do work well also when the main profile folder Users is relocated on another drive than C:
    • Windows Store and Store Apps do not work if any other system folder for example Programdata is located on another drive than C:
    • User Profile Service issues have nothing to do with relocated Users folder. Check this tutorial for possible causes and solutions. If one or more accounts are working well and another account not, the logics already tell that the system itself (relocated Users) works and the issue is elsewhere
    • When a new user account is created, Windows will not create the User folders but only prepare the system for a new user. The user folders themselves are only created when this new user is logged in first time
    • Microsoft has nothing against relocating users. The problem is relocating ProgramData, which although not recommend on Windows 7 can be done without any issues, but on Windows 8 includes several issues like for instance non-functioning Store
    • I have personally used Windows 8 since first beta versions, having Users relocated on all my physical and virtual Windows 8 setups, never had any issues

    I'll be more active here at the Eight Forums starting from now, checking my threads daily. Ask more if something is still not clear.

    Kari
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  9. #398


    Posts : 2
    8.1 Pro


    Thanks Kari,

    Now that I'm assured regarding windows store and I know to not move anything but the User I'll go on with my installation. The truth is that I've already done some test installation just to get the hang of it and to be ready for your answer.

    @Footleg, while experimenting with the process of installing windows 8.1 on C: and the User on D: which in my case were two separate physical drives, I've encountered the error message that you described above, the cause in my case was that the hard drive containing the User (D: in my case) was unplugged at one of my reboots while I was trying various things, took me a minuet or two to check the system while I was thinking to myself that the process of moving the user is utterly unsafe, of course after reattaching the second drive and booting all went well.


    I hope I've helped a bit.
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  10. #399


    Posts : 2
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Hi Kari, thanks very much for the prompt reply...

    Prior to your reply, I had read the tutorial on the profile service issues, and several others, so far to no avail.

    What I'm not clear on is that the "second" account worked before I relocated the profiles (the profile for second account seemed to be moved fine) and also I had been able to create new accounts before hand (obviously). At this time, I cannot use the second account or create any new accounts - all except my "primary" don't work. I have tried local and MS; Creating through Control Panel and from "Manage Computer / Users" - always the same result, they cannot login. The only other thing that changed post the move, was installation of Office2010, AVAST (not used this before) and iTunes...

    Note I had not moved the ProgramData as I only came across this tutorial AFTER you'd removed it ;-)

    Any suggestions? Given it's quite clean, I may just blow it away and start from clean - I just hate having to resort to that until I know why!
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