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User Profiles - Relocate to another Partition or Disk

  1. #310


    Posts : 1
    Windows 7, Windows 8, Linux, Android


    I followed your procedure and everything went smoothly...thanks for an accurate, well documented process!!!!

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  2. #311


    Posts : 1
    windows 8


    hey just wanted to say thanks this is a great thread followed your instructions all the way and it worked perfectly. thank you
    regards
    Agnar Einarsson
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  3. #312


    Posts : 1
    Windows 8 Pro


    Hi Kari, thanks for the great post.
    With the <ProfilesDirectory>e:\Users</ProfilesDirectory> tag one can specify the location of the entire users directory. I would also like to rename Documents to docs, Downloads to downloads and so on automatically for each and every user account to be created in the future. Does the relocate.xml script handle such cases?
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  4. #313


    Victoria
    Posts : 2
    Windows 8 Pro 64 bit


    Hey Kari,

    Thanks so much for this SUPER helpful. It worked flawlessly once I stopped and actually read all the instructions. However,
    While the user files moved and Windows and the Metro apps all seem to not mind having the user files now on my D: drive's raid array the only thing that's stopped me cold is trying to upgrade to the 8.1 preview. I noticed separate instructions for 8.1 with the only real change being .\Sysprep.exe in preview vs Sysprep.exe.
    When I installed 8 pro it worked across metro but when I go to "upgrade" to 8.1 it says my system is not compatible. I'm 99% sure its the moved user profile as I upgraded to 8.1 previously. I've now reinstalled windows to 8.1 using the disc fresh install method and was able to maintain the user profile setup. Do you think I'll have to do that again when 8.1 final comes out October 18th?
    Maybe I missed something?
    THANKS!
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  5. #314


    Posts : 5
    XP, Win7, Win8, Linux


    Quote Originally Posted by Kari View Post
    Rainer, first I want to repeat what I said on that quoted thread on Seven Forums:
    Due to it's complexity and numerous ways it can go wrong I have not included this procedure in my tutorial, and I will not in any circumstances offer support or advice on this subject. Call me chicken if you want to but I do not want to spend my evenings answering all those "Oh s*** it totally messed my Windows!" posts.
    My reasoning as a list:
    • Microsoft has reasons not to recommend moving Windows and / or Program Files away from system drive. So much depends on these folders working flawless it is a risk not worth taking
    • Too much can go wrong. When it does go wrong it is normally serious enough to be beyond any other repair method than complete reinstall
    • The total HDD space Program Files and Program Files (x86) folders are taking is so little there is no reason to move them, at least in the sense of getting more space

    I strongly recommend you not to move Program Files. If you decide to do it on Windows 8, be prepared to reinstall several times. Although it is doable and I have done it a few times on a test rig the resulting Windows 8 setup is so unstable and error-prone I have decided to give up and forget this.

    I am totally completely absolutely refusing to assist in this. It's a liability issue: If (and when) something goes wrong, I am on the safe side when I know I have warned against.

    Kari
    I would have to agree with Kari. It does not make any sense to relocate Program Files or Program Files (x86). Would like to point out that, even though I don't know the differences in the implementation of Program Files between XP and Windows 7 and Windows 8 and maybe in this aspect not much if anything, in XP you could always set up a second Program Files directory on another physical drive (as I did) and install dozens of 3rd party program apps in that directory (as I did) without noticing any problem (which has been my experience) if space is an issue. I am assuming it may be no different in Windows 7 and 8. But there are some applications, MS Office being one of them and a few 3rd party apps that will need to install at least Some of the app files in the Windows default directory. So you can not just move these folders. I personally don't think anyone should ever attemt to move them when it is possible to set up a second directory. I remember installing MS Office 2003 on Windows XP and telling the installer to install to my secondary Program File directory I set up on D: on another physical drive. The MS installer installed some files to MS Office 2003 there but installed at least half of them in the default C:\Program File. This never seamed to be a problem with using MS Office but then I was not a really heavy technical user only setting up typical small DB's in Access and basic spread sheet in Excel, most advanced thing maybe having data span several data sheets. It seams that MS Office always knew where the files were located that it needed no matter which of the two directories they were in but things being more complex in Windows 7 and 8 and also more complex with MS Office 2007, 2010, and 2013 may not present as smooth of a result today. I have never actually tried installing any of the newer MS Office suites t a newer Windows in a secondary directory I created as HDD are much cheaper now as when I had XP on a 13GB and had to get a 120GB for $80 to install any more applications or user files. I would presume that having MS Office files split up in two different directories on a newer version of Windows may not work as smoothly these days.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vadikan View Post
    Hi Kari,

    Nice tutorial here. I especially like that it shows the supported way I hope you don't mind a few observations.

    1. You've got a good warning about ProgramData, but it doesn't mention that it messes up servicing, so it may cause issues with updates and service packs.

    2. Despite the warning text, the rest of the tutorial keeps mentioning ProgramData throughout except for the answer file. That's why people keep doing it If you drop the reference, that will probably stop.

    3. Copying the unattend file is kind of awkward because of the notes. You can make two examples (one per arch) and use
    <!-- comments --> for the rest. That will reduce error rate.

    Finally, there's a shortcut that entirely eliminates the whole audit mode with sysprep thing and speeds things up In short:
    1. Save the Unattend.xml file on the drive to which you want to move profiles.
    2. Start install, format the system drive to be.
    3. Open cmd (Shift+10), type notepad.
    4. Open the Unattend.xml in Notepad. While doing this, take a note of the drive letter, then use in the path to the profile dir.
    5. Save the file to the system drive root and proceed with the install.

    Here's the video of the installation process. The actual move takes around 35 seconds



    That's it
    Vadim
    Vadim, You mentioned in a subsequent post that this video was in English but it didn't apear to be in English to me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jared575 View Post
    Hey Kari,

    Thanks so much for this SUPER helpful. It worked flawlessly once I stopped and actually read all the instructions. However,
    While the user files moved and Windows and the Metro apps all seem to not mind having the user files now on my D: drive's raid array the only thing that's stopped me cold is trying to upgrade to the 8.1 preview. I noticed separate instructions for 8.1 with the only real change being .\Sysprep.exe in preview vs Sysprep.exe.
    When I installed 8 pro it worked across metro but when I go to "upgrade" to 8.1 it says my system is not compatible. I'm 99% sure its the moved user profile as I upgraded to 8.1 previously. I've now reinstalled windows to 8.1 using the disc fresh install method and was able to maintain the user profile setup. Do you think I'll have to do that again when 8.1 final comes out October 18th?
    Maybe I missed something?
    THANKS!
    Appears maybe Kari is MIA at the moment
    Jared575, I remember that (I can't remember if it was Kari or someone else that mentioned a file that can be edited and also the process of doing so somewhere in the last 10 pages of this forum thread. I cold look for it as I may need to refer to it later but figure you could look just as easily as I am running short on time.
    Last edited by Richman1; 23 Aug 2013 at 23:36.
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  6. #315


    Posts : 5
    XP, Win7, Win8, Linux


    I am unclear, or maybe I am not unclear as to the benefit of this method over using the 'Move' button and/or libraries or links other than when setting up new users it always goes to the new directory. I see this as a benefit for sure. I read where Kari mentioned, "...it is a more secure method and I always prefer it". But the reason I ask is that I am building a new system for my stepmother and I think moving the user files and/or linking libraries would be better choice for her situation since she would never be creating other user accounts. Would anyone agree? This may be a question for another thread but, she will have a windows 7 and 8 partition I want to deliver this machine to her and don't want to spend any more hours breaking something and re-installing and such. Also, could moving the user files and/or using libraries or some kind of link work to use one set of user files for bot OS's or is this method better for certain reasons.


    That brings me to another question regarding building a new dual boot for myself. Can this method Kari's method with the answer file) be used with a dual boot situation to use one set of user files for two different OS's. I noticed one user state that there was some sort of problem using this method when there was already a set of user account files in the directory which there would be after using this method on Windows 7 and then trying to use it on Windows 8. I can't remember if this person posting this mentioned a fix or not without rereading everything. Would this method only be able to be used on one OS like Windows 8 and would I have to use another method like links and/or registry hacks to get the other OS, Windows 7 to link to the same user files. Along thes same lines I have read some forum posts where using the same user files for two OS's like Windows 7 and Windows 8 has not presented any issues but then a few other posters (in I think some other forum) posted that this has made scan disk run when restarting and booting into the other OS.
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  7. #316


    Victoria
    Posts : 2
    Windows 8 Pro 64 bit


    Quote Originally Posted by Jared575 View Post
    Hey Kari,

    Thanks so much for this SUPER helpful. It worked flawlessly once I stopped and actually read all the instructions. However,
    While the user files moved and Windows and the Metro apps all seem to not mind having the user files now on my D: drive's raid array the only thing that's stopped me cold is trying to upgrade to the 8.1 preview. I noticed separate instructions for 8.1 with the only real change being .\Sysprep.exe in preview vs Sysprep.exe.
    When I installed 8 pro it worked across metro but when I go to "upgrade" to 8.1 it says my system is not compatible. I'm 99% sure its the moved user profile as I upgraded to 8.1 previously. I've now reinstalled windows to 8.1 using the disc fresh install method and was able to maintain the user profile setup. Do you think I'll have to do that again when 8.1 final comes out October 18th?
    Maybe I missed something?
    THANKS!
    Appears maybe Kari is MIA at the moment
    Jared575, I remember that (I can't remember if it was KAri or someone else that mentioned a file that can be edited and the process of doing so somewhere in the last 10 pages of this forum thread. I cold look for it as I may need to refer to it later but figure you could look just as easily as I am running short on time.[/QUOTE]



    I was doing searches for program data stuff and i realised that %appdata% is stored in the user directory. It looks like a i need a way to move the user profile but leave behind the appdata where it is.. It seems like metro apps dont have a problem following the app data to the new location but the system updates are a bit more rigid and so they cant see the app data when updating to 8.1... is this possible? for example write out the script so you can tell it to move to d:\ *except* app data?
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  8. #317


    Posts : 2
    Windows 8


    Hello again! Ive successfully followed this tutorial, and everything has been working smoothly.
    Now though, ive had some problems with .net and i am therefore considering to attempt a "system refresh" from the windows CD.

    My question is if its a good idea to do the "system refresh", or if it will cause problems with my account.
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  9. #318


    Posts : 22,020
    64-bit Windows 10


    Hello Duxuforest,

    I would recommend moving the user profiles back to the default location on C: before refreshing Windows 8 to prevent them from possibly no longer working afterwards.
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  10. #319


    Posts : 5
    XP, Win7, Win8, Linux


    Quote Originally Posted by Jared575 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Richman1 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jared575 View Post
    Hey Kari,

    Thanks so much for this SUPER helpful. It worked flawlessly once I stopped and actually read all the instructions. However,
    While the user files moved and Windows and the Metro apps all seem to not mind having the user files now on my D: drive's raid array the only thing that's stopped me cold is trying to upgrade to the 8.1 preview. I noticed separate instructions for 8.1 with the only real change being .\Sysprep.exe in preview vs Sysprep.exe.
    When I installed 8 pro it worked across metro but when I go to "upgrade" to 8.1 it says my system is not compatible. I'm 99% sure its the moved user profile as I upgraded to 8.1 previously. I've now reinstalled windows to 8.1 using the disc fresh install method and was able to maintain the user profile setup. Do you think I'll have to do that again when 8.1 final comes out October 18th?
    Maybe I missed something?
    THANKS!
    Appears maybe Kari is MIA at the moment
    Jared575, I remember that (I can't remember if it was Kari or someone else that mentioned a file that can be edited and also the process of doing so somewhere in the last 10 pages of this forum thread. I cold look for it as I may need to refer to it later but figure you could look just as easily as I am running short on time.


    I was doing searches for program data stuff and i realised that %appdata% is stored in the user directory. It looks like a i need a way to move the user profile but leave behind the appdata where it is.. It seems like metro apps dont have a problem following the app data to the new location but the system updates are a bit more rigid and so they cant see the app data when updating to 8.1... is this possible? for example write out the script so you can tell it to move to d:\ *except* app data?
    Jared575,
    Looks like you deleted a beginning QUOTE and it made it look like you said the exact same thing as me. You may want to edit that back in. Oh look, it did the same thing to me. Only because I quoted you and it was just a direct copy with the omitted Quote tag in your post which nobody will see here since I edited it. If you care to fix your post Jared575, Just put "QUOTE=Richman1;270697" replacing the "QUOTE MARKS" WITH [BRACKETS] and just place it at the top in front of the quote tags with your name in it.

    As for appdata, I haven't tried this tutorial yet but I thought that Kari had deleted the reference to ........ oh wait a minute I maybe I brain farted, I think it was ProgramData. Oops. Appdata folder huh, I think that is s new one nobody has mentioned here yet. Are you sure or is this a hunch? I am just curious why nobody mentioned it here before and didn't come across the same problems and findings. Unless someone did mention it and I confused AppData with ProgramData again of course they sound like they should be the same thing even though they are not and are different file folders.
    Last edited by Richman1; 27 Aug 2013 at 22:28.
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