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User Profiles - Relocate to another Partition or Disk

  1. #160


    Posts : 2
    Windows 8


    Thanks Kari but I badly worded my question as I'm planning a clean install on my currently empty SSD but want to keep the user data on the HDD (which currently houses Win7 and all data) but at the same time ensure that the MBR is written to the SSD and not the HDD.

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  2. #161


    Thank you so much for your guide. I followed your instructions and my user folders moved effortlessly from my SSD to my eSATA drive. Unfortunately, I misunderstood the full impact of breaking what you refer to as "Windows Start Apps" when I also elected to move the ProgramData folder. I didn't realize I was risking access to basic system functionality, I thought it was just the tablet-style apps. I can get the Charm bar to show and everything there seems to work fine, but if I navigate to and click "Change PC Settings" it just flashes and returns me to the Metro desktop (same "bug" as the Windows Store). When I click the Bluetooth icon in my system tray, half the options THERE simply flash the PC Settings window and then close, as well.

    In addition to following Anthony Fleck's guide (elevated reg tweak and taking ownership - my local and "roaming" Windows accounts both have full control and are admin level), I then tried symbolic links and reverted the registry settings. I tried symlinks and the real locations (been trying to cover all the bases, even the far-fetched ones). I've tried the app store "fix it," I've tried clearing the windows store cache using WSReset.exe (it throws an error: Windows cannot find 'ms-windows-store:PurgeCaches'. Make Sure you typed the name correctly, and then try again), running "scannow" under an elevated command prompt, and the Win8 troubleshooter. I haven't tried a "refresh," which I understand I can still get to even though I can't access PC Settings. What would that affect, assuming it allows me to run one? Will it undo the folder moves? What gets over-written, if anything, that I should back up beforehand?

    Am I worrying over nothing more than an annoyance (albeit a big one)? Is everything under PC Settings also available under plain old Control Panel? For example, I assume "devices and printers," followed by "add a device" would do whatever the PC Settings counterpart would do for adding a BT device, correct? I have tried it, but I can't get BT headsets to work under Win 8 for the life of me - Windows 8 can't find them and I have tried with both the default BT drivers and the newest Broadcom ones.

    Ultimately, I REALLY don't want to have to format and start from scratch when I have everything else just the way I want it. While I'd like to use them, I can survive without apps or the app store (I can even survive without BT), but I want to make sure there isn't something under PC Settings that I need (or may need in the future) and can access no other way.

    Thanks again for your guide, and thank you in advance for any assistance you may be able to provide.
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  3. #162


    A Finnish ex-pat in Leipzig, Germany
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    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    Quote Originally Posted by kittykatmax View Post
    Am I worrying over nothing more than an annoyance (albeit a big one)? Is everything under PC Settings also available under plain old Control Panel? For example, I assume "devices and printers," followed by "add a device" would do whatever the PC Settings counterpart would do for adding a BT device, correct? I have tried it, but I can't get BT headsets to work under Win 8 for the life of me - Windows 8 can't find them and I have tried with both the default BT drivers and the newest Broadcom ones.
    One big issue with Windows Apps not working is to maintain User accounts. If you want to add / remove users, Control Panel > Users will take you to Windows App called PC Settings, which as you have already noticed, does not work very well when ProgramData is moved.

    Everything else can be done from Control Panel, even User accounts from Command Prompt using net user command.

    You could try one fix: Boot to Audit Mode, edit the answer file removing the line about Users and editing the ProgramData line to move ProgramData back to default location:
    Code:
    ...
    <FolderLocations>
    <ProgramData>C:\ProgramData</ProgramData>
    <FolderLocations>
    ...
    Now run SysPrep with this modified answer file.

    Leaving your system as it is now will bring you issues later on. Trying the above fix might not work, forcing you to re-install. My recommendation is to reinstall, leaving ProgramData where it is and and move only the Users.

    Annoying, yes, but better for your nerves .


    Your post was the last straw, I will edit the tutorial now and remove everything concerning ProgramData and moving it. It is not worth the trouble, better to leave it where it is.

    Kari
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  4. #163


    Thanks for the quick response. I will probably try your fix first (yes, lazy of me) and will let you know if it works. If I have to do a full reinstall, I'm planning to just go back to Windows 7. The dual format (desktop/app) is clearly poorly/improperly integrated, and worse, Microsoft seems incapable of supporting problems with PC Settings and/or the Windows Store breaking when it crops up for any reason - and it seems to be a fairly common problem: Windows 8 app store and PC Settings won&#39;t open. - Microsoft Community. I read the various posts and suggestions for fixing this issue on answers.microsoft.com (see Tinyurl) and it didn't inspire confidence.
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  5. #164


    A Finnish ex-pat in Leipzig, Germany
    Posts : 1,452
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    OK, Kitty. I am very interested in hearing how it went.

    Relocating ProgramData in 7 if you go back is faultless, no problems. I have done it on all of my Seven rigs since I started testing first pre-release versions of Seven in 2008, almost 5 years now, and on Vista even before that. Never had any issues, the relocating survives every system recovery measure and is reliable.

    My tutorial for relocating Users and ProgramData on Seven: User Profiles - Create and Move During Windows 7 Installation - Windows 7 Support Forums

    This might also give you some tips: An Old School Geek’s approach to Installing & Setting Up a Windows PC Solved - Windows 7 Support Forums

    Kari
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  6. #165


    I followed this guide to the "T" but had problems with Xbox Music not been able to sign in, some error about can't access some file. google didn't give me a answer so i searched through the registry and found

    Code:
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Shell Folders
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Shell Folders
    this what i had to change

    Code:
    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Shell Folders]
    "OEM Links"="C:\\ProgramData\\OEM\\Links"
    "CommonVideo"="D:\\Users\\Public\\Videos"
    "Common Documents"="D:\\Users\\Public\\Documents"
    "Common Startup"="D:\\ProgramData\\Microsoft\\Windows\\Start Menu\\Programs\\Startup"
    "Common AppData"="D:\\ProgramData"
    "CommonPictures"="D:\\Users\\Public\\Pictures"
    "Common Desktop"="D:\\Users\\Public\\Desktop"
    "CommonMusic"="D:\\Users\\Public\\Music"
    "Common Start Menu"="D:\\ProgramData\\Microsoft\\Windows\\Start Menu"
    "Common Programs"="D:\\ProgramData\\Microsoft\\Windows\\Start Menu\\Programs"
    "Common Templates"="D:\\ProgramData\\Microsoft\\Windows\\Templates"
    "Common Administrative Tools"="D:\\ProgramData\\Microsoft\\Windows\\Start Menu\\Programs\\Administrative Tools"
    all where still looking for folders on C: drive.

    not sure what OEM folder is for as it does not exist. is it ok to point it to D: drive?

    There is also a lot of reg entries still pointing to C:\user and C:\programdata in a reg folder called inboxapp but they need permission to edit. not sure if it's safe they are .lnk entries.
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  7. #166


    Posts : 3
    Windows 8 / Mint 14


    Kari- well done on such a clear guide. Between that and your commitment to the community you're doing a real service for people

    I've previously used your guide successfully, but I came to reinstall after an SSD failure and the install process failed at the stage rebooting in OOBE. Before progressing to any further setup screens, I got an error dialog popup over the WIndows logo + spinner loading screen, along the lines of:

    Could not parse or process the unattended answer file (C:\Windows\Panther\unattend.xml) for pass (oobeSystem). The setting specified in the answer file could not be applied. The error was detected while processing settings for Microsoft-Windows-Shell-Setup.
    (edit: verbatim quote)

    Looking at that file I see the unattend.xml file virtually duplicated (see bertieb unattend.xml - Pastebin.com for original and Panther versions). I confirmed locations for profile relocation and wim.

    Looking at the sysprep setuperr.log and setupact.log, ther eisn't much that jumps out (see bertieb sysprep logs - Pastebin.com). The general setup actions log file (C:\Windows\Panther\setupact.log) is even less helpful.

    The location that profiles are to be moved to (J:\Users) already has profiles from previous installations and has over 15GB free space.

    Having run through the process with some minor variations, I am now at a loss. Any suggestions on how best to proceed?
    Last edited by bertieb; 23 Feb 2013 at 16:21. Reason: exact error message text
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  8. #167


    A Finnish ex-pat in Leipzig, Germany
    Posts : 1,452
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    That error message usually means that the value of variable ProcessorArchitecture is wrong (amd64 <> x86). another possible fault is that sysprep clearly has some issues to change the value of ProfilesDirectory variable if new value (= folder) exists.

    A workaround that has worked for me when that parsing error occurs and which you could try is to boot to Safe Mode. If Windows 8 is able to boot to Safe Mode, it then ususally also boots to normal mode.

    Parse error, Windows not booting > Boot to Safe Mode > Reboot > Windows might be able to boot normally.

    To boot non-working Windows 8 to Safe Mode:
    • Boot with installation media
    • Click on Next on Windows Setup screen
    • Select Repair your computer
    • Select Safe Mode on Advanced Startup Options


    If still not working I'm afraid you need to reinstall. If so, backup the old Users folder from your J: drive to an external location, format the disk and try again.

    Some tips for reinstallation: An Old School Geek’s approach to Installing & Setting Up a Windows PC Solved - Windows 7 Support Forums

    Kari
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  9. #168


    Posts : 3
    Windows 8 / Mint 14


    Many thanks for the quick reply!

    Quote Originally Posted by Kari View Post
    That error message usually means that the value of variable ProcessorArchitecture is wrong (amd64 <> x86). another possible fault is that sysprep clearly has some issues to change the value of ProfilesDirectory variable if new value (= folder) exists.
    I have been installing as amd64/X64 so I think the value is correct. I was not aware that the specified directory could not exist! I previously was not able to re-use a profile (ie previous directory was J:\Users\bertieb, creating the user bertieb made an additional folder J:\Users\bertieb.computername). Co-incidentally I thought I'd give renaming the Users folder a try but apparently Windows lied to me about renaming it as when running from a livecd it still has the name "Users".


    Quote Originally Posted by Kari View Post
    A workaround that has worked for me when that parsing error occurs and which you could try is to boot to Safe Mode. If Windows 8 is able to boot to Safe Mode, it then ususally also boots to normal mode.

    Parse error, Windows not booting > Boot to Safe Mode > Reboot > Windows might be able to boot normally.

    To boot non-working Windows 8 to Safe Mode:
    • Boot with installation media
    • Click on Next on Windows Setup screen
    • Select Repair your computer
    • Select Safe Mode on Advanced Startup Options
    While getting the exact error text for my previous post I got your reply and attempted this (for those wondering why safe mode is not an immediate option):


    1. boot from setup media
    2. next
    3. repair
    4. additional options
    5. command prompt
    6. bcdedit /set {default} safebook network
    7. (close command prompt)
    8. continue (safe mode)


    Unfortunately I got the error "Windows cannot complete the isntallation in safe mode. To continue installing Windows, restart the computer". Inevitably, on restarting not in safe mode I got the error I would normally get:

    "Windows could not complete the isntallation. To install Windows on this computer, restart the isntallation"

    I am in the process of backing up the USERDATA partition I have, the next attempt will be without a J:\Users directory existing.

    Cheers!
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  10. #169


    A Finnish ex-pat in Leipzig, Germany
    Posts : 1,452
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    Keep us posted!
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