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User Profiles - Relocate to another Partition or Disk

  1. #150


    UK
    Posts : 177
    Win 8


    Oh and my iPad and iPhone backup wirelessly to iTunes when I put them on charge overnight. I almost never plug them into a USB port and sync with iTunes. And home sharing means everything installed on one device is shared across all of em including my iTunes running as a media server on my Server 2008r2 box up in the attic.

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  2. #151


    Posts : 6
    Windows 8


    Quote Originally Posted by steveb View Post
    I sync all contacts and appointments via iCloud keeping my iPad, iPhone, my wife's iPad and iPhone and all our windows PCs in sync with Outlook (client only no exchange server). Photos sync via iCloud too. All my documents sync via a combination of Dropbox, SkyDrive, GoogleDrive and iCloud. Our mail server uses imap so my multiple mail accounts all sync across all devices. It's smooth and seamless and has no need of a so called single ecosystem. Windows 8 is irrelevant to the operation as long as all the services are supported it plays no part.

    Steveb that's nice, but I don't want any of my stuff in the "Cloud" I am awaiting the day one of those servers get hacked, and tons of private data/pics/music is all across the net. Not to mention someone working with the sever Snooping your stuff....And most of the Cloud services have a disclaimer saying the "Company" is not responsible for your data. And lastly, esp with Icloud, i've seen several people make the mistake or accidentally deleting something from their phone, only to their Horror find out it has been deleted EVERYWHERE, as the Cloud auto Sync's...
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  3. #152


    UK
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    Win 8


    Then you are in for lots of hard work! All my data is also backed up to a local server and removable drives daily. I'd be far more worried about trusting your bank and credit card companies with your data and their corrupt employees than syncing your files in the cloud.
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  4. #153


    Posts : 2
    Win 7, Win 8 Pro 64B


    Well, I tried all what Kari mentioned in his guide but I have quite problems with the Windows apps after I moved the user files to another disk. Apps not working, white screens or apps just crashed afer a second, no Downloads anymore from app store. Trying to fix the apps with the Microsoft rep tool did not work, refresh did not work (cause user files where moved...) Tons of probs.

    Ok. What did I do? I only moved my user profiles and not the ProgramData (be aware that in German/ European Windows installs such folder would more likely be called "Program Files" and not ProgramData. The script Kari used will not move your Program folder from your drive C anyhow. Localisation prob only.

    Just to clarify for everyone; you can have two kinds of user profiles:

    A) A user profile registered with Microsoft where you sign on with your username (email) and password you registered with Microsoft.
    - Even in the Initial Setup of Win8 it gives you the hint that you CAN use, download, purchase Windows Apps with such an account. Welcome transparent Microsoft customer!

    B) A user profile NOT registered with your Microsoft account, aka as your LOCAL user account.
    - As mentioned in the Initial Setup procedure while installing Windows 8 it will tell you that you CAN`T download or purchase Windows Apps with such a local account! So Windows 8 and a local user account & Microsoft Apps are just for the birds, or lets say "out of the window(s)"


    Okay, what did I do now and how can I move my user files to another disk?

    I just did a fresh Windows 8 Pro install and installed everything on my SSD drive.

    As my System booted up for the first time I located my user Profile on my SSD (C:/Users), right click on Contacts, Desktop, Downloads, My Documents, My Music, My Pictures and so on, then select "Properties", then choose "Location" and just change the drive letter from C:\.... to your new drive letter (just drive letter, do not mess with the path name) where your files and folders should be moved (in my case E:\...).

    Easy as that, no scripts, no reboots and your user files will move away from your SSD drive (or drive C) to another drive.

    The best thing is my apps are still working.


    Good luck
    Last edited by FredM; 15 Feb 2013 at 14:33.
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  5. #154


    A Finnish ex-pat in Leipzig, Germany
    Posts : 1,452
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    Fred, may I first correct the totally wrong statements in your post:

    Quote Originally Posted by FredM View Post
    Ok. What did I do? I only moved my user profiles and not the ProgramData (be aware that in German/ European Windows installs such folder would more likely be called "Program Files" and not ProgramData. The script Kari used will not move your Program folder from your drive C anyhow. Localisation prob only.
    1. ProgramData (a hidden system folder) is called ProgramData in all language versions of Windows, also in German Windows, as this screenshot from my German Windows 8 Pro shows:

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    2. ProgramData is never called Program Files, not in any language. Program Files is always the real name of Program Files in all language versions of Windows, it is never used as a name for ProgramData folder. Even in German Windows 8 where the Program Files folder is called Programme in Explorer, if you type C:\Program Files on Explorer addressbar and hit Enter, it opens that Programme folder because it is actually not even a real folder; instead it is only a link to the actual real Program Files folder on your C: drive , used so that the German users would not need to use an English name:

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    I repeat: System Folder names are the same in all language versions of Windows.

    Check yourself, open Command Prompt on your German Windows 8, go to C: and take a directory listing. You'll find that there's no such folder there as Programme because it does not exist, being only a link and not a real folder. The real folder is called Program Files (in English) also in your German Windows:

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    This is because for the system to function properly and similarly in all languages all system folders have to use the same names, in every language. If you tried to move Program Files (= Programme) with sysprep as you hint in your post, it did of course not work for you cannot move Program Files folder with sysprep, it is not supported.

    Quote Originally Posted by FredM View Post
    A user profile NOT registered with your Microsoft account, aka as your LOCAL user account.
    - As mentioned in the Initial Setup procedure while installing Windows 8 it will tell you that you CAN`T download or purchase Windows Apps with such a local account! So Windows 8 and a local user account & Microsoft Apps are just for the birds, or lets say "out of the window(s)"
    3. Of course you can install and use Windows Store Apps on a local account! Simply go to Store, select an app you want to install and at first time the store asks you to give a Microsoft email address and password (Hotmail, Live, MSN, Outlook) as here when I just now installed Google Search App from Store only to get a screenshot:

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    Later you will see the installed apps on Start Screen on your local account:

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    My account Kari (work German) is really a local account as you can see here:

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    Afterwards this email is connected to your local account and installing Store Apps does no longer ask your credentials.

    I love critics, that makes life better. Constructive critics helps us to change the way we think and act. What I dislike is this what you are now doing: you present completely false and untrue statements as facts. Please next time check first your facts before posting and giving our members and readers so absolutely wrong information!

    Of course everyone can do things in the way that suits them best. If you want to manually move every folder, do it. The method described in this tutorial makes it automatically and does not only move your docs, pics and so on but moves all users and all their folders at the same time, completely, with AppData and so on and also takes care that all future accounts are created on the new location, not on C:. Using your method you have to do that manually for each user account and each folder.

    By the way, I hope you did not change the folder name Users in the answer file script to German Benutzer; The real name of that folder is Users, in German and Russian and Serbo-Croatian. Localized names as Benutzer, Programme and so on are only links in your language pointing to real English names of these system folders. Again something you can test: type C:\Users in Explorer addressbar in your German Windows and see what happens.

    Quote Originally Posted by FredM View Post
    Well, I tried all what Kari mentioned in his guide but I have quite problems with the Windows apps after I moved the user files to another disk. Apps not working, white screens or apps just crashed afer a second, no Downloads anymore from app store. Trying to fix the apps with the Microsoft rep tool did not work, refresh did not work (cause user files where moved...) Tons of probs.

    I think you did just that, you thought you were clever and changed the name Users in my script to German Benutzer. It is wrong and should not be done, it can cause your complete Windows stopping to function.

    It's Users, ProgramData, Program files. Windows System Folders use and have English names in every language. The answer file script used in this tutorial must be used exactly as it is written, in English, in all language versions of Windows.

    You are doomed to fail if you are foolish enough to change the folder names Users and ProgramData to your own language!


    Kari
    Last edited by Kari; 15 Feb 2013 at 15:36.
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  6. #155


    Posts : 2
    Win 7, Win 8 Pro 64B


    Quote Originally Posted by Kari View Post
    Fred, may I first correct the totally wrong statements in your post:
    I mugged something up here. Yep, hidden folder ProgramData. You are right.

    I was fiddeling with the user accounts in the first place.

    Thanks alot for the enlightment Kari.

    PS: No, I did not Change the "user" folder to German. Even I am German, I use the english language in Win 8
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  7. #156


    A Finnish ex-pat in Leipzig, Germany
    Posts : 1,452
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    We need to think about future readers here; posting untrue statements can make things complicated for people, that's why it is important to correct things and present real facts.

    Please, answer honestly. Did you translate the folder name Users in German Benutzer when you tried to sysprep as told in this tutorial? If so, it's no wonder you got problems.

    Kari

    EDIT: OK, saw your answer in your last post.
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  8. #157


    Posts : 12
    Windows 7 Ultimate


    Quote Originally Posted by Kari View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Brad P View Post
    But it was this line "Let it run, donít touch mouse or keyboard now. When System Preparation Tool is ready, Windows must and will reboot. It reboots back to Audit Mode." is where I had to assume I needed to remove my Win8 USB installation stick prior the reboot. It turned out my assumption was correct.
    I do not understand what you mean?

    The install media (where the install.wim is) must be connected and available throughout whole sysprep process, it should not be disconnected when sysprep reboots.
    I ran the script with the USB stick plugged in but when it went to reboot, I removed the stick. Either way, it worked because my user folder was moved to D:.
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  9. #158


    Posts : 2
    Windows 8


    My current windows 7 and all user data is on a HDD and am looking to follow this guide to install Win8 OS & program data on a new SSD and User data on the existing HDD.

    I've read that to ensure the MBR is written to the new SSD I should disconnect all other drives. Will it be ok to reconnect the HDD once the initial installation is done and before I enter audit mode to run the scripts etc?

    Also, I assume my new User data can be stored in any folder name as long as I correct the script accordingly. eg I want to store all data in directory E:\Users(Win8)\ so that the Win 7 user folders/files are left alone and I can simply cut and paste them into the new Win8 user directory which should be very quick due to being on the same partition.

    Any thoughts on this?

    Thanks
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  10. #159


    A Finnish ex-pat in Leipzig, Germany
    Posts : 1,452
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    Hi Stuart, welcome to the Eight Forums.

    First the most important principle:

    warning   Warning
    You cannot sysprep an upgraded Windows. Even an earlier repair install changes your system status from clean to upgraded. Sysprepping Windows 8 can only be done if and when you have done a so called clean install of Windows 8, or if the Windows 8 was pre-installed by manufacturer / vendor and it has never been upgraded or repair installation has not been done.

    A Windows 7 upgraded to Windows 8 cannot be sysprepped.

    What does this mean:
    • If you upgrade Windows 7 to Windows 8 starting the upgrade process from desktop of 7, or you select Upgrade install, your windows 8 can no longer be sysprepped. Installation must be started by booting to install media and selecting "Custom installation" (clean install)
    • If you have done a clean install of Windows 8 or got a new PC with pre-installed Windows 8 but you have donne a so called repair install, your Windows 8 can no longer be sysprepped


    If your intention is to upgrade to Windows 8, I would recommend you first sysprep the underlying old 7 and relocate the Users, as this can no longer be done after the upgrade. The tutorial for Windows 7 here: User Profiles - Create and Move During Windows 7 Installation - Windows 7 Support Forums

    As for your question about the folder location, it can be anywhere. Remember that as usual in Windows if the path contains spaces it must be within quotation marks, so E:\Users(Windows 8) is wrong. Instead it should be "E:\Users(Windows 8)"​.

    Kari
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