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User Profiles - Relocate to another Partition or Disk

  1. #90


    A Finnish ex-pat in Leipzig, Germany
    Posts : 1,452
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    Sorry I've been away from here, saw the new posts first now.

    @ Hornfan24: I do not know what went wrong for you. You need to boot from Windows Install Media if you used Windows Backup to create the image, or boot disk for your imaging application if you used third party tool, and then restore the image. It should work.

    @Anthony: Your fix is fabulous! With your permission I would like to add that to the tutorial, of course giving credits to you as an author.

    @ NCguy: It might happen when I find some extra time...

    Kari

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  2. #91


    Posts : 4
    Windows 8 Pro


    Kari,

    Be my guest

    I unfortunately don't have time to stick around much and help people out beyond what I have just done. After spending the better portion of a day off to figure this out I was excited to post it and hopefully save some people some time!

    Good community here! I may pop in once in awhile, but can't make any promises! Thanks for the help with the original tutorial!
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  3. #92


    Posts : 2
    Windows 8 Pro


    Hello,
    if you modify the tutorial you should add that the apps might also not work any more if the Program Data was not moved.
    In my case, I moved only the Users folder, and for the main user account which was created before the move, the apps do not work any more. Also the fix described by anthonyfleck (leaving out the change of the Program Data directory key) did not fix it.

    Cheers,
    Murf
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  4. #93


    Posts : 20
    Windows 8 Pro


    Hi Murf,

    Not sure if I understand this correctly
    I moved only the Users folder, and for the main user account which was created before the move
    .....but if you mean you relocated BOTH the "Users" folder AND (separately) the "Main User Profile" folder which you had created earlier your issue could be similar to mine

    If it helps, I have established that whilst in the past (Windows 7, XP etc.) it was possible to relocate the "Users" folder as outlined in this tutorial AND then an individual "User Profile" folder (in my case through registry) this appears to NO LONGER be possible in Windows 8 due to issues with the Windows Store and Apps; see TechNet article Profiles Directory which states "When this setting is changed, the Windows® Store and Windows Store apps are not supported".

    I have successfully deployed Windows 8 (relocating only the "Users" folder like you) using this tutorial from a clean install. The Windows Store and Windows Store Apps ALL function without issue as others have reported.

    My problems arose when attempting to relocate my "main" user profile to a drive root (which I have done previously over many years) at this point the Windows Store and Windows Store Apps would no longer function correctly no matter how I tried to correct this behaviour. Store would not sign in and certain apps would not launch....

    In conclusion I have determined (at least until others wiser than me lol, unlock the secret to doing this) that the only workable solution is:

    1. Backup all user data.
    2. Perform a "Clean Install" relocating the "Users" folder to the root of your chosen drive using Kari's tutorial.
    3. Manually relocate each "virtual" Shell Folder (Documents, Music, Videos etc.) for each User to a given location (Folder Properties, "Location" tab) reflecting your preferences.
    4. Restore your Personal data.
    5. Test Store and Apps for EACH user.
    6. Apply (if necessary) AnthonyFleck's 'permissions' fix.

    NB. Whilst (for me) not ideal as this leaves each User's (hidden) AppData folder resident in the "Users" folder at least all Personal data can be relocated appropriately.

    Finally, as you did not specify whether this was being attempted from an "In Place" standpoint or a "Clean Install" having only attempted the latter, I guess the outcomes could vary for the former??

    Hope this helps you.

    PC Pilot
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  5. #94


    Posts : 2
    Windows 8 Pro


    Hi PC Pilot,
    I first installed Win8, and a couple of days later transferred the c:\users as it is described in the tutorial. Of course, at this point I already had 1 user account since I had started win8 before (the "main user account", as I called it before). For this account, the apps are not working. I'm pretty sure by now that the permissions got screwed up somewhere. Right now it seems that transferring the personal data to a new user account and deleting the "broken" one is the easiest solution. Re-installing windows + all programs will certainly need more time.
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  6. #95


    Posts : 286
    W8.1 Pro 64


    Quote Originally Posted by PC Pilot View Post

    In conclusion I have determined (at least until others wiser than me lol, unlock the secret to doing this) that the only workable solution is:

    1. Backup all user data.
    2. Perform a "Clean Install" relocating the "Users" folder to the root of your chosen drive using Kari's tutorial.
    3. Manually relocate each "virtual" Shell Folder (Documents, Music, Videos etc.) for each User to a given location (Folder Properties, "Location" tab) reflecting your preferences.
    4. Restore your Personal data.
    5. Test Store and Apps for EACH user.
    6. Apply (if necessary) AnthonyFleck's 'permissions' fix.


    PC Pilot
    PC pilot,

    If you are going this route do you even need to perform step #2 if you are going to do step #3? Or does step number #2 keep you from having to do step #3 for subsequent new users?
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  7. #96


    Quote Originally Posted by Murf View Post
    Hi PC Pilot,
    I first installed Win8, and a couple of days later transferred the c:\users as it is described in the tutorial. Of course, at this point I already had 1 user account since I had started win8 before (the "main user account", as I called it before). For this account, the apps are not working. I'm pretty sure by now that the permissions got screwed up somewhere. Right now it seems that transferring the personal data to a new user account and deleting the "broken" one is the easiest solution. Re-installing windows + all programs will certainly need more time.
    Yes - exactly my own situation. Worked a treat on a new build, transferring users from my 180 GB solid state drive, where I just want the OS & programs, to a 3 TB HDD. No real problem at all to set up a new account & delete the old one as long as you have more than 1 email account for Microsoft Passport as it won't let you use the same one on the same PC. Many thanks for the instructions & updates.

    One issue I encountered. Could not install Roxio 2012 as the new user - kept rolling back, but found it worked when I activated the hidden Administrator account & ran it when logged on to that. Don't know if this is a possible issue with other programs. I haven't encountered any yet.

    Anyway, thanks again guys.
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  8. #97


    A Finnish ex-pat in Leipzig, Germany
    Posts : 1,452
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    Quote Originally Posted by Graham S View Post
    Yes - exactly my own situation. Worked a treat on a new build, transferring users from my 180 GB solid state drive, where I just want the OS & programs, to a 3 TB HDD. No real problem at all to set up a new account & delete the old one as long as you have more than 1 email account for Microsoft Passport as it won't let you use the same one on the same PC. Many thanks for the instructions & updates.
    When setting up additional accounts first time in Windows 8 I noticed there is a workaround for using the same Microsoft address for as many user accounts as you want to.

    Because the nature of my work I need several user profiles. My main user account in Windows 8 is a Microsoft Account and is connected to an Outlook.com (Live.com) email account. Additionally I have 4 local accounts, each transformed to a certain language for my work needs using Windows Language Packs, changing the Display Language. My main account is for private use only and in English, additional work accounts in Finnish, Swedish, English and Swedish allowing me to see when need arises all Windows menus and dialogs, full content including Windows Help in respective language. This possibility I need for my work.

    My 4 work accounts are as I mentioned all local accounts, and each of them tied to the same Outlook.com email address as my main account. This has also an extra security benefit: work accounts being local they are not administrative accounts so they are quite safe to use.

    How to tie a local account with your Microsoft email address without converting user profile to Microsoft Account? In a few easy steps, depending on what services you need for your local account.

    If you just want to download and install apps from Windows store:
    When installing first app from Store after creating a local account, Windows asks which Microsoft email account you would like to connect with Store. You can use any email address, even the one you are already using for another Windows 8 account. Here I have clicked Install on Solitaire in Windows Store. Email is only asked once, thereafter you can download and install as much as you want to:

    Click image for larger version

    You can also use Mail app on a Windows 8 local account for your Microsoft email (Outlook.com, Live.com etc.):
    Start Mail app, when started first time on a local account Windows asks which Microsoft email account you would like to connect with Mail app. Again, use any email you want to, even the same already used for a Windows 8 Microsoft account and for store and mail on another local account:

    Click image for larger version

    If you want to play games which use XBox gamer tag, you need to do this, too. Just first time starting the game, thereafter email is remembered.

    All extra accounts remain local, not converted to Microsoft accounts but still each and every one is tied to the same email address I use for my main Microsoft account. The main account is administrator account as Microsoft accounts are, four others local non-administrative accounts.

    Click image for larger version

    Kari
    Last edited by Kari; 21 Jan 2013 at 12:49.
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  9. #98


    Posts : 6
    Win8


    Hi,
    I wonder if I have to have an installation DVD/USB Iso to use this way? I do have Win 8 installed, but I didn't get any recovery disk. If I do have to have this installation disk, how can I generate one? I am owing a legal copy of Win8.

    Best regards
    Sebastian
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  10. #99


    A Finnish ex-pat in Leipzig, Germany
    Posts : 1,452
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    Hi Seb, welcome to the Eight Forums.

    You must have valid Windows 8 install media when sysprepping.

    Your system specs do not tell which make and model your computer is. Normally all new computers have at least an option to burn so called recovery media; in some cases it is enough for sysprep as the recovery media includes the install.wim file needed for this method to run. However, some manufactures create and pack recovery media in a way that is not suitable for sysprep and it will not find install.wim.

    You could ask from the store where you bought Windows 8, or your PC manufacturer to provide Windows 8 DVD.

    Here's a tutorial to tell you how to obtain Windows 8 ISO image if you have no luck with seller or manufacturer: https://www.eightforums.com/tutorials...ad-create.html

    Kari
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