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  1. #480


    Posts : 22,565
    64-bit Windows 10


    Quote Originally Posted by SaggyMaggyPoo View Post


    Thank you for such a clear and concise explanation. Just what I needed.

    I've just run through the tutorial - there's a lot there! Fortunately I will be able to have it on one laptop to refer to while I'm working on the other.

    I plan to try and replicate my current system as regards the User accounts and computer name. Am I correct in assuming I will be able to use the same names and passwords again on the new hard drive, or am I going to have to come up with some new ones?
    Yes, you can setup your user accounts with the same names and such if you like.

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  2. #481


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 6,490
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    Quote Originally Posted by Brink View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SaggyMaggyPoo View Post


    Thank you for such a clear and concise explanation. Just what I needed.

    I've just run through the tutorial - there's a lot there! Fortunately I will be able to have it on one laptop to refer to while I'm working on the other.

    I plan to try and replicate my current system as regards the User accounts and computer name. Am I correct in assuming I will be able to use the same names and passwords again on the new hard drive, or am I going to have to come up with some new ones?
    Yes, you can setup your user accounts with the same names and such if you like.
    I use the same Live ID on 4 different PC's. It may actually make things simpler for you. Depending on how your One Drive sync settings are configured. Your personalization settings can be synced from one PC to another and backed up online. Stuff like your Account Picture, Lock screen, your current theme and colors, IE favorites and web site login info. It will set it all back up the way you have it now. Assuming the appropriate sync settings are enabled. Charms Bar > Settings > Change PC Settings > OneDrive > Sync.

    EDIT: Even if you don't use a live ID, you can use the same username and password again and again.
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  3. #482


    Greece
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    Win8.1 64bit, Windows 10 TP on VMWare Player


    Quote Originally Posted by Brink View Post
    Yes, you can setup your user accounts with the same names and such if you like.
    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    EDIT: Even if you don't use a live ID, you can use the same username and password again and again.
    Thanks to both of you. I don't use a live ID so there will be a bit of work involved in setting things up but I don't mind that. I can try and get things 'right first time' this time.

    I'm just downloading a new copy of the iso, and actually starting to get impatient to get going . Fortunately it will be a few days until the HDD arrives (ordered from Amazon UK and has to get to Greece) so I will have time to make sure I have done all the necessary prep and got in enough bottles of red wine to calm my nerves!
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  4. #483


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 6,490
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    Having the second PC will be a bonus. If you get stuck or unsure you can go online and sort it out. I keep my user folders a separate drive/partition. Then when I do clean install I delete all the partitions except the one with my Data on it. Windows recreates all the needed system partitions and the windows partition and then installs. Once that's done I just change the location of my user folders from the default to where I have stored. I don't lose anything or have to copy to external and copy back again. saves a lot of time and effort. In my desktop I use an SSD for Windows and a conventional hard drive for Data. You could likely do the same thing if you wanted. I think a lot of forum members went this route.
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  5. #484


    Greece
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    Win8.1 64bit, Windows 10 TP on VMWare Player


    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    I keep my user folders a separate drive/partition. Then when I do clean install I delete all the partitions except the one with my Data on it. Windows recreates all the needed system partitions and the windows partition and then installs. Once that's done I just change the location of my user folders from the default to where I have stored. I don't lose anything or have to copy to external and copy back again. saves a lot of time and effort. In my desktop I use an SSD for Windows and a conventional hard drive for Data. You could likely do the same thing if you wanted. I think a lot of forum members went this route.
    Some things to think about, thank you.

    Right now I have everything together on C, but once I get the new drive installed I'm considering splitting the OS and data into different partitions. I've been browsing threads where people talk about backing up their OS and their data separately and, though it's taken a while to filter through my brain, I can see the benefits in this.

    For now I have all my data on a System Image on an external HDD and plan to move things over once I have the new drive up and running. Well that's the theory, and everything I've read here suggests it should work smoothly in practice .
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  6. #485


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 6,490
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    For me, and I'm sure a lot of other people too, its a required space issue. I have about 300 GB worth of files on my DATA drive. That means I would need a 500 GB SSD to get it all on the one drive. When I bought my SSD a 500 GB SSD would have been very expensive. They still aren't cheap at that size. The easy solution was to buy a smaller drive for the OS and then use the hard drive it's replacing for my DATA. I got lucky with my laptop, it has two drive bays. I put a 128 GB SSD in for the OS and a 256 GB SSD in for my DATA. That was what my budget could afford at the time. Then I put the original 750 GB spinner drive that came in it in an external enclosure for further file storage and backup. I keep that drive in my laptop bag. The benefit to having your Data on a separate partition of drive is when you have a crash and Windows won't boot up. Reinstalls are easier to do without worrying about losing your files. You can erase the Windows partition without losing anything other than installed programs. And no having to copy it all back from an external drive to your internal hard drive. It's a win win in my books.
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  7. #486


    Greece
    Posts : 341
    Win8.1 64bit, Windows 10 TP on VMWare Player


    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    The benefit to having your Data on a separate partition of drive is when you have a crash and Windows won't boot up. Reinstalls are easier to do without worrying about losing your files. You can erase the Windows partition without losing anything other than installed programs. And no having to copy it all back from an external drive to your internal hard drive. It's a win win in my books.
    Win win sounds good to me, especially as I've been learning the hard way up till now.
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  8. #487


    Posts : 959
    Windows 8.1, 10


    Hi Shawn,

    I thought I'd try Option 1 with my new tablet, which is advertised as coming with Windows 8.1 with Bing, having taken a full backup image. Doing "slmgr.vbs /dlv" it says it is a CoreConnected edition, and a couple of other product key readers say it is "Windows 8.1 Connected".

    I tried downloading the 'Windows 8.1' (32 bit) edition using the Media Creation tool, but when I run it, it asks for a Product Key (not a good sign as I was hoping it would read the key in the BIOS) and when I typed the key in, got the error :
    "The product key entered does not match any of the Windows images available for installation. Enter a different product key."

    Any idea if I can get past this? Would downloading the Pro edition help? Or is my edition simply not available via the Media Creation tool, do you think?

    Thanks,
    David
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  9. #488


    Posts : 22,565
    64-bit Windows 10


    Hey David,

    I'm not sure unless the OEM used some other version What does it say for "Description" when using "slmgr.vbs /dlv"?
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  10. #489


    Posts : 959
    Windows 8.1, 10


    Quote Originally Posted by Brink View Post
    Hey David,

    I'm not sure unless the OEM used some other version What does it say for "Description" when using "slmgr.vbs /dlv"?
    Hello Shawn,

    Thanks for replying. It says:
    "Description: Windows(R) Operating System, OEM_DM channel"
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