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  1. #10


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    windows 8


    I remember reading about MS frowning on BartPE but thought that was smoothed over. Well then, Plan B. Is it possible to put a virtual XP or Windows 7 on WTG. And even if it can, will it run decently? And in regular virtuals there is supposed to be a trick to accessing files on the host computer. Can all this be done? WTG, plus virtual XP or W7 plus accessing files on the host drive. I would be doing this mainly for my full fledged stationery - scrolling, transitions, popups, etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by cluberti View Post
    Windows To Go is for Windows 8 only. There are 3rd party products that allow you to create "portable" installations of other versions of Windows, but booting WTG requires the Win8 bootloader and the Win8 kernel - the 3rd party solutions use drivers and hardware trickery to get around older OS limitations on fixed disk booting. BartPE might be enough to get you working from a bootable USB key, but of course (especially in the US) the legality licensing-wise of doing such a thing is always in question.

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  2. #11


    Redmond
    Posts : 651
    Windows 8.1 x64


    If you install Hyper-V on a WTG install (yes, it can be done) on a machine with a SLAT-capable CPU, you can then take that just about anywhere the hardware supports virtualization (including non-SLAT machines) and it'll run just fine from a WTG stick. With that you can run any OS you'd like in Hyper-V.
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  3. #12


    Posts : 8
    windows 8


    Ahhhh in English, in English Virtual has always been my downfall could never get it going. I ran coreinfo and it said my computer is capable: Hypervisor is present, supports amd hardware-assisted virtulatization, supports amd nested page tables (Slat) But now I am getting into Dimmie territory (Dummy on steroids, that's me).

    I came on an interesting concept however - Paragon Go Virtual. Rather than install an operating system into a virtual box, this lets you makes a virtual image of a drive on your computer. Therefore I can install fresh XP on my older tower, get paint shop pro and its filters, get my stationery stuff together then use PGV to make a virtual image of the whole shebang. Now to figure out how to get it into a virtual box, probably the one from Microsoft. And it sounds like this would work on more computers than Slat and Hyper-V would?

    This might be an interesting thing to do, and a suitable subject for a baby steps tutorial here on the Windows Eight Forums.
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  4. #13


    Redmond
    Posts : 651
    Windows 8.1 x64


    Just remember that type-2 hypervisors (virtualization applications like Virtual Box, VMware workstation, etc) don't run directly on the hardware and can take a relatively interesting performance hit, although they generally have less stringent hardware requirements. The benefits of a type-1 hypervisor like Hyper-V is that it does run directly on the hardware, and virtual machines run (basically) directly on the hardware as well, gaining almost native performance (usually within 1-2% of native performance, sometimes even better with newer OSes like Win8 and Server 2012).

    So with compatibility comes a penalty, usually in performance. If you're fairly sure you'll be near machines that will have Intel or AMD virtualization technology available with your WTG stick, Hyper-V would be a much better choice.
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  5. #14


    Posts : 8
    windows 8


    Now this is good news indeed, that virtual can use hardware. When W7 first came out and people were trying to get Windows Mail going (and thanks to the Windows Seven Forums for this) they also tried XP virtual only to quickly abandon it due to the slowness.

    I didn't even realize Virtual can use hardware, Can you explain this Type 1 - what is it exactly, how does it use hardware, where do find tutorials on doing this, etc. Ideally I would like to use this on my WTG.

    I found this on youtube
    Episode #328: Introduction to Type 1 Hypervisor Virtualization - Bare Metal Virtual Servers - YouTube


    I guess you have to have a server for Type 1, and you install VMware ESXI then you install whatever operating systems you want.


    I am not sure how this goes. If I want Type 1 on my WTG, how would I do that? Do I always have to install Vmware first then operating systems? If I have just one computer and no server or network would I wipe my hard drive then install Vmware then my Windows? And woulod WTG be one of these? I am confused ...
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  6. #15


    Redmond
    Posts : 651
    Windows 8.1 x64


    Hyper-V is a bare metal hypervisor, and the OS you log into (Windows 8, in this case) is a "management partition", aka a special VM with special access to drivers and the hypervisor. Microsoft has made type1 hypervisors more available to everyone with Windows 8 and Hyper-V, honestly - install the Hyper-V feature, reboot twice, and you have Windows 8 as a management VM on top of a type1 hypervisor, and if you do this on a WTG install of Windows 8 you have created that now running all on a portable USB key. It's not more complicated than that, and it's pretty cool to do .
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  7. #16


    Germany/Florida
    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7


    I created my Windows to Go with the help of VMware Player and that works with any Windows 8 edition. In the tutorial I use the example of a Linux distro, but I have also used it for my Windows Pro upgrade. It works very well on all my systems.

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  8. #17


    Posts : 8
    windows 8


    This is a very interesting concept and I would like to learn it now that I know more. But to start with something completely foreign then put Windows on top of that is too unsettling for me. Wish I had known of this when I was first learning computers Thank you for your help, and never say never so maybe some day.

    Quote Originally Posted by cluberti View Post
    Hyper-V is a bare metal hypervisor, and the OS you log into (Windows 8, in this case) is a "management partition", aka a special VM with special access to drivers and the hypervisor. Microsoft has made type1 hypervisors more available to everyone with Windows 8 and Hyper-V, honestly - install the Hyper-V feature, reboot twice, and you have Windows 8 as a management VM on top of a type1 hypervisor, and if you do this on a WTG install of Windows 8 you have created that now running all on a portable USB key. It's not more complicated than that, and it's pretty cool to do .
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  9. #18


    Posts : 8
    windows 8


    I think I will go with the VM Player and will post in the thread you suggested. I tried to follow the directions and it kept saying it couldn't find the iso. Which is not unusual for me, could never get virtual going. See you on the other side

    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    I created my Windows to Go with the help of VMware Player and that works with any Windows 8 edition. In the tutorial I use the example of a Linux distro, but I have also used it for my Windows Pro upgrade. It works very well on all my systems.

    Portable OS - Carry your OS on an External Drive - Windows 7 Help Forums
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  10. #19


    Posts : 2
    8.1 blue


    I am REALLY ecstatic about WTG and this forum has my gratitude for getting me up to speed quickly.

    The one problem I still see with it, and which doesn't seem to be addressed on this forum or anywhere in google searches is how to change the screen resolution, as the max I can get is 1024.

    Please, please, please: if THIS works it will MAKE MY DAY.
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