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kermit1942

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I'm going in circles and cannot find a solution that I understand for this issue. When I attempt to copy from a drive to my "C" drive I get a popup stating "You'll need to provide administrator permission to copy to this folder".

  1. I've turned off UAC via the slider
  2. I've downloaded UAC_Never_Notify.reg (see http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/5509-user-account-control-uac-change-settings-windows-8-a.html) and executed it
After I get the popup I click continue and then I get a popup telling me "S:\ refers to a location that is unavailable..." which I know is not true, I can see it in Windows Explorer.

I have a second drive in my laptop and if I attempt to copy the file to it there is no issue, e.g. the file/folder is copied over.
 

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Slider is not good enough. The registry key is equivalent to the slider. Set the enableLUA key to 0 in the registry. It will break metro apps, so remember to turn it back on afterwards(if you use metro apps).
 

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kermit1942

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OK I found part of the solution.
  • In your file manager application right-click on the C drive, select properties, click on the Security tab - Here I modified each Group to have full access (I'm the only one using my laptop).

  • As the permissions were being applied I noticed that they were not applied to some folders (Documents and Settings, Program Files, Program Files (x86), ProgramData, Users, Windows, and some system files like the paging file). I can understand that it did not grant the access to the system type files but I don't understand why it blocked the other folders. I need access to these folders - How is this accomplished?
 

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There is a reason Windows sets up security the way it does. By changing the security, you are weakening the security of the OS, and making it more vulnerable to viruses and malware. You will see the exact same thing in Unix based OS's (including OSX) as well.

By turning off UAC, you are also removing protected mode web browsing (so the browser doesn't run with limited privileges) thus exposing the browser to potential drive-by attacks.

Turning off UAC also breaks a number of Metro apps, disables many compatibility features, and more or less makes your life a lot harder in many other ways, usually worse than the original problem you were trying to solve.

I know the argument.. I should be able to do whatever I want. And you can. But by doing so, you're going to be fighting the system, and frankly most people won't have much sympathy for you if you insist on doing things the hard way.

The reason for the permissions not being set on other folders is that those folders do not have the "Inherit permissions from parent" flag enabled, because the security on those folders are extra sensitive. Program files folder is supposed to be Read-Only, except for the Trusted Installer, this prevents viruses from taking hold and overwriting files in those folders.

You really should get on the bandwagon and just use your user profile for all files you want to copy to your system drive. Windows makes it super easy to access those files from Explorer, and provides the Libraries feature to make using multiple drives even easier. But hey, if you really want to do things your way... Then don't be surprised when you run into problems.
 

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kermit1942

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I don't have a problem with security in fact it is a good thing but when I don't understand it or the description assumes I know what is being described then I get confused and cannot perform the actions I need to do.
You state
You really should get on the bandwagon and just use your user profile for all files you want to copy to your system drive. Windows makes it super easy to access those files from Explorer, and provides the Libraries feature to make using multiple drives even easier. But hey, if you really want to do things your way... Then don't be surprised when you run into problems.
I see the words but I have no idea what the heck you are talking about and you don't provide enough details for me.

Currently this is what I'm attempting to do.
  1. I installed SnagIt
  2. In the Program Files (x86) folder as I drill down I see "C:\Program Files (x86)\TechSmith\Snagit 11\Stamps"
  3. The Stamps folder is not complete, e.g. there are lots of other stamps I want SnagIt to use.
  4. On my network drive I have a SnagIt\Stamps folder that contains all of the other stamps I want the installed program to use.
  5. I attempted to copy the stamps from the network drive to the C:\Program Files (x86)\TechSmith\Snagit 11\Stamps" but it fails.
If you would be so kind as to explain in very simple terms what I need to do to copy the files from my network drive to the "C:\Program Files (x86)\TechSmith\Snagit 11\Stamps" folder I'd greatly appreciate it.
 

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You will need to set the enablelua key from 1 to 0. You can use search to find the key in regedit. Then you should be able to do the file copy like normal.

What I beleive is happening is that when your account is elevated, the network locations are not configured correctly. You can also try to copy the files to a folder you own(like my documents or something) then copy them to program files.
 

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kermit1942

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You will need to set the enablelua key from 1 to 0. You can use search to find the key in regedit. Then you should be able to do the file copy like normal.
  • Which enablelua key do I change? When I search the registry I found at least four.
  • I changed the first one I found, still I could not copy the files from the network drive to the C folder.
    • NOTE - I have a second drive on my laptop and I can copy anything from the network drive to it.
    • On the C drive if I copy to a folder where the permissions were applied (see the earlier post in this thread) the copy is successful. As I see it the problem is with the permissions on the "C:\Program Files (x86)" folder where the permissions were not set.
    • If I right-click on "C:\Program Files (x86)" > Properties > Security > Advanced I can see that I don't have full control but I cannot change the level of control.
    • BTW I copied the files from my network drive to the "D" drive (this is my second HD in the laptop) and then I attempted to copy from the "D" drive to the "C:\Program Files (x86)\TechSmith\Snagit 11\Stamps" and I get the same failure.
 

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kermit1942

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I just activated the Administrator account and I was able to copy the files without issue. How do I get my account to have the same authority as the Administrator account? Both are members of the Administrator group.
 

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As I have been saying, it is the enableLUA key that allows your account to have full admin power all the time. Normally, your account will run under reduced privileges because of UAC.
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\System\
You will also need to reboot for the change to take effect. That may have been your issue.
 

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More success but not 100%. see the post at http://www.eightforums.com/tutorial...le-folder-drive-registry-key-windows-8-a.html
  • I did as suggested and was able to delete a set of folders from "C:\Program Files (x86)\TechSmith\Snagit 11\Stamps"
  • As a test I attempted to copy the deleted folders from the network drive to the "C:\Program Files (x86)\TechSmith\Snagit 11\Stamps" folder. All of the folders/files were copied over except for 32 files in one of the folders.
  • I extended the test and attempted to delete the folder (Accents) on the C drive where I could not copy the 32 files. This failed.
  • I then deleted all of the folders in "C:\Program Files (x86)\TechSmith\Snagit 11\Stamps" and deleted everything except for the Accents folder and the 32 files.
  • I then installed Unlocker and attempted to see what was locking the folder. Per Unlocker it was not locked, I then attempted to let Unlocker delete the folder and it reported that it could not and gave me the option to delete at the next reboot. I selected this option and rebooted.
  • The accent folder is now gone
  • I then successfully copied all of the Stamps folders/files from the network drive to "C:\Program Files (x86)\TechSmith\Snagit 11\Stamps"
This has been a handsome frog of a trip and I now consider the issue resolved.

I also meant to say that I had changed the enableLUA key prior to the last post phailyoor made but it did not resolve the issue for me. BUT not knowing that I had to reboot to make the change effective I had NOT rebooted thus I don't know if this would have resolved the issue.
 

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BTW - before attempting the above I did change the enableLUA key in the registry and this did not help but I don't think I rebooted. Thus I'm not sure if this would have resolved the issue. At the time when I made the change I did not know that I had to reboot to make the change effective.
 

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I tested this and had no issues copying a file from my network share to an arbitrary folder in Program Files without any fancy registry hacks or permission changes. All I did was enable the administrator account then copied the file from a UNC path to the share, if you try to copy from a mapped drive it will fail with an error about the location not existing. Personally I think it's a bug. The UNC path is what you used to map a drive to the share.

Edit: Actually I just tried it again with the administrator account disabled and it still worked, but I realized my account is in the Administrator group anyways.
 

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Sorry to necro this thread.

Using the EnableLUA tweak does in fact achieve the desired result, restoring Windows 7 and beforehand permission functionality across the shell with Administrator-level accounts that aren't the Administrator account.

But we can no longer launch the Windows 8 "Metro" apps. Surely someone has found a better solution by now?
 

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AVG

BTW - before attempting the above I did change the enableLUA key in the registry and this did not help but I don't think I rebooted. Thus I'm not sure if this would have resolved the issue. At the time when I made the change I did not know that I had to reboot to make the change effective.
Ok - I changed:

Ownership.
Permissions.
EnableLUA.

Reboot. Still didn't work.

I use AVG Free. I googled how to shut that down (as another post was talking about disabling their antivirus).

Bingo. Copied files without a hitch.

Cheers!
 

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Hi guys...

I'm sorry but I have to jump in here as I am a new Windows 8.1 user.. and this is driving me nuts, too. I have pretty much nothing on my C:\ drive.. I leave that for the main workings etc.. I do have 3 external HD... my problem is, whenever I am trying to do alot of anything with those files, ie: moving or copying files from one of these to another.. it keeps asking me to provide admin rights etc... this is fine and dandy when I am at the machine, but I have programmes that run in the background, uploading or downloading etc.. and they hang because whenever any traffic is happening, into or out of those drives, the system thinks either they don't exist or somesuch problem. I have tried to take ownership of those drives.. some of it has been resolved, but is there an easy way to take control of the whole system? My account is set as an administrator... shouldn't everything I do have admin permissions by rights? This is worse than the lockdown Apple has on their iPhones... hehehe

Thanks for any and all help...

PS: I have read the previous and I have found the enableLUA key in regedit.. but I don't want to put that to 0 as I do use a few of the apps.. I don't want to bite off my nose to spite my face....
 

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If you are using Avast! antivirus, try this.
Avast! > Settings > Active Protection > File System Shield > Off

Copy your files, then turn the Avast! File System Shield back on.
 

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