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Windows RT vs Android


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#1
I do not have a Windows RT device so that's the reason for my question Windows RT vs Android. I have had a Android tablet (Motorola Xoom) for about a year now and it's been great.

What can Windows RT do that Android can't?

What can Android do that Windows RT can't?


Does RT tablets have all the same hardware sensors and a GPS as Android?

For me I would rather have the Pro version but then I lose battery life. If I get the pro version it will be a laptop. 4 hours or so of battery does not cut it.
 

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it's the biggest downfall of the surface pro, the shocking battery life.

if they could make it last the 8-9 hours then it would hands down be the best tablet on the market.
 

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What can Windows RT do that Android can't?
MS office
Also, printing of MS office documents
Split screen(but it's not very nice)...kind of-android CAN split screen if you go through the trouble
flash...kind of-android CAN flash if you go through the trouble

What can Android do that Windows RT can't?
-->>Good web browsers
->has nonzero good tablet apps (also, optimization)
non-not very nice email client
non-not very nice calendar
non-not very nice etc...
Sideloading
custom roms
 

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I think Windows RT is a wait and see game. Being I already have a Android Tablet I'll wait a year or so and see where Windows RT is. Maybe this Windows Blue will amount to something. I have browsed the Windows store and there were no apps there for what I use on my Android so if I was to get a Windows RT now I would have like one or two apps that I would use. Like I said I'll wait and see how Windows RT and the app store matures.
 

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Well, it's not a simple comparison. Pretty much any device can do what another device can do. How well it does it is a different story.

RT has full MS Office (not crappy ports of Open Office), not something office-like.. it's real office. RT is very gesture oriented, whereas Android.. not so much. RT's "Store" is a cross between Google Play and the iTunes App Store. It's more trustworthy than Play (I wouldn't trust my credit card info to Play) in my opinion, and unlike Android.. device makers don't have to pay extra to get access to the Store. This means all RT tablets have full Windows Store access, which can't be said for all Android tablets.

You should find someplace that's selling them and try it out.
 

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I looked at my tablet and made a list of all the apps I like and use. I then went to the Windows Store on my Desktop and found 1 app counter part and it didn't even work. I really like Windows but so far Windows keeps coming up short as of now. At least the store seems to be increasing fast. I don't much care about Microsoft Office. I have been using Libreoffice on my desktop. Office is priced way to high for me to justify paying it for my desktop PC.

For what I use a Tablet for and the price point for Android and Surface I will stay with Android. I don't want Windows RT bad enough to pay over $399 for it. If I have a choice of Android for $399 and Surface for $499 I will go with Android. I think the Surface is over priced. That's based on my usage and preference.

I seen very little apps on the Windows store that I would use.
 

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I just looked at Microsoft and the Surface does not appear to have a GPS. I want my Tablet to have a GPS.
 

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GPS tends to be built into cellular chipsets, so it's only typically available on devices that have 3G or 4G. This is the same with the iPhone/iPad and android devices. Surface does not have 3/4G so it doesn't have a GPS, but that doesn't mean it doesn't have location services.
 

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wow, I thought all Android Tablets had a built in GPS. My Motorola Xoom has a built in GPS. Maybe my next device will be a Windows RT device.
 

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I just checked the Galaxy Tab and Note Tablet specs at Samsung and it did not mentions a GPS but when I read reviews it said they both had a GPS.
 

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Well, it's not a simple comparison. Pretty much any device can do what another device can do. How well it does it is a different story.

RT has full MS Office (not crappy ports of Open Office), not something office-like.. it's real office. RT is very gesture oriented, whereas Android.. not so much. RT's "Store" is a cross between Google Play and the iTunes App Store. It's more trustworthy than Play (I wouldn't trust my credit card info to Play) in my opinion, and unlike Android.. device makers don't have to pay extra to get access to the Store. This means all RT tablets have full Windows Store access, which can't be said for all Android tablets.

You should find someplace that's selling them and try it out.
Full Office? With Outlook for e-mail?
 

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The Galaxy Tab and Note both have cellular chipsets in them.

Some wi-fi only devices actually have a cellular chipset in them, but the cellular function is disabled, so the GPS still works. As an example, the iPod Touch and iPad Wi-Fi only have no GPS.
 

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Full Office? With Outlook for e-mail?
Not all versions of Office come with Outlook. By "full" I mean the apps are the real apps, not a subset like you get on older Windows Mobile devices.
 

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Windows 8 RT (This is the name I believe it should be called) :
-Office Home and Student 2013 preinstalled WITHOUT needing to purchase it
-About 12,000 different devices support, basically, if the device was built from 2009 and on, it most likely will work right away, iDevices being the exception of course
-No viruses, malware, STDs of any kind
-Very good battery life
-Desktop File Explorer
-In the case of the Surface RT, touch or type covers along with a built in kickstand with dual 720p cameras
-Depending on the tablet, you can have 4G capabilities, like from att
-Xbox Music streaming, as well as neater designed apps!
-Ability of manage a Windows Phone with Windows RT as well as 8
-Through the use of BlueStacks, it appears that android apps will be able to work with Windows RT; also some Russian hacker/developer claims that he can get traditional Desktop software emulated on Windows RT, this has yet to be seen
-Unlike android or ios, Windows RT IS NOT Windows Phone, blown up by a factor of four, cuts out the phone and SMS part, and calls it good

Android:
-More apps, but comes with some concern as google is FINALLY starting to address the malware issue with some apps in their store
-Some phablets have USB support, SOME, not all
-Don't have a real file explorer
-When was the last time you plugged in your android smartphone into your android tablet? Oh yeah, never.
-May need to have an anti-virus/malware software installed to deal with security problems with android, as T-Mobile is ACTUALLY installing anti-malware software on android phones, PHONES!
-Can use other browsers
-Pretty much an android smartphone, blown up by a factor of four, cuts out the phone and SMS part, and calls it good
-From my personal use of android tablets, it ends up feeling bloated when you get an amount of apps installed, unless if it's android 4 but even then.
 

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I use my Tablet as a GPS when I go out of town. That's the reason I bought the Motorola Xoom because it has a GPS. I was looking to pay $150 for a GPS. I put that $150 towards my Xoom. So far Android has worked fine on my Tablet even though it's geared for a phone. At this point I can't justify paying the price Microsoft want's for the Surface with no GPS and verry little usable apps that I would be interested in. I hope Microsoft adds a GPS and brings the price down.
 

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Windows 8 RT (This is the name I believe it should be called) :
-Office Home and Student 2013 preinstalled WITHOUT needing to purchase it
-About 12,000 different devices support, basically, if the device was built from 2009 and on, it most likely will work right away, iDevices being the exception of course
-No viruses, malware, STDs of any kind
-Very good battery life
-Desktop File Explorer
-In the case of the Surface RT, touch or type covers along with a built in kickstand with dual 720p cameras
-Depending on the tablet, you can have 4G capabilities, like from att
-Xbox Music streaming, as well as neater designed apps!
-Ability of manage a Windows Phone with Windows RT as well as 8
-Through the use of BlueStacks, it appears that android apps will be able to work with Windows RT; also some Russian hacker/developer claims that he can get traditional Desktop software emulated on Windows RT, this has yet to be seen
-Unlike android or ios, Windows RT IS NOT Windows Phone, blown up by a factor of four, cuts out the phone and SMS part, and calls it good

Android:
-More apps, but comes with some concern as google is FINALLY starting to address the malware issue with some apps in their store
-Some phablets have USB support, SOME, not all
-Don't have a real file explorer
-When was the last time you plugged in your android smartphone into your android tablet? Oh yeah, never.
-May need to have an anti-virus/malware software installed to deal with security problems with android, as T-Mobile is ACTUALLY installing anti-malware software on android phones, PHONES!
-Can use other browsers
-Pretty much an android smartphone, blown up by a factor of four, cuts out the phone and SMS part, and calls it good
-From my personal use of android tablets, it ends up feeling bloated when you get an amount of apps installed, unless if it's android 4 but even then.
Bluestacks is x86 only. Almost definitely won't work in RT.
 

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Full Office? With Outlook for e-mail?
Not all versions of Office come with Outlook. By "full" I mean the apps are the real apps, not a subset like you get on older Windows Mobile devices.
OK, fair enough, no Outlook would be one of the things to keep me from buying an RT device. I was pretty sure it came with Office Home and Student. I was just wondering if that changed and you knew something I didn't know.
 

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