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Windows...Get me out of here

Bollocks

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Hard to know how to express so fed up. Purchased 2 Dell XPS ultrabooks with Windows 8. After months of trying to use Windows 8 with various problems (with all Dell and MS updates installed) have reached the end. Good help from Dell premier support but Windows 8 is just aweful.
The W8 interface is so confused and obtuse, not like windows, not like a tablet.
Security issues r a killer. Have Windows home server but nvr able to access from Windows 8.
Wireless connection drops for no reason.
IE crashes constantly, unworkable.
I try my XPS with W8 and just give up. Go to my iMac and everything works as expected.
I see MS accept Windows 8 was a knee jerk and Windows 10 is coming. They should nvr have dropped XP which was great, and now they r dropping support for W7. I think windows is in its death phase.
I was a Microsoft MVP for 4 years supporting it and helping others (in XP days) and enjoyed it. I cant defend Windows now any more, or even use it effectively myself.
My last resort short term is to buy W7 for the XPS in hopes to use my Dell investment.
After that I'm going Apple devices and nvr going back.
Windows, so sad, from great innovation to unusable operating system.

With regret, time to leave windows. My conclusion on Windows..my user name.
:eek:

No response or help required. Get me out of here (i.e. windows).
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    windows 8.1
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    Laptop
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    Dell XPS
    CPU
    na
    Motherboard
    na
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    na
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    na
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    IEcrap
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    avg

whs

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Reading threads like this make me think I really am in the minority. I really like Windows 8.1

You are not in the minority. I like 8.1 too - so we are already two.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Vista and Win7
    System Manufacturer/Model
    2xHP, 2xGateway, 1xDell, 1xSony
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    5 SSDs and 12 HDs

dburne458

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I am loving 8.1 here as well. No issues at all with it...
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 64 bit
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Self Made
    CPU
    I7 4820K
    Motherboard
    EVGA X-79 Dark
    Memory
    Corsair Dominator Platinum 16 gb 2133 mhz
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    EVGA GTX 770 4GB
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    IE11
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    Defender

stringjunky

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Well, today, after a week with W8.1, I discovered all the gestures possible with a precision touchpad that W8.1 supports and it makes everything so much more intuitive and relaxed moving around and selecting things. I'll never pine for W7 now, as much as I liked it. :)
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 with Bing x64
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire ES1-512-CSYW
    CPU
    Intel Celeron N2840 @ 2.16GHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Aspire ES1-512 BIOS: Insyde Corps V1.07
    Memory
    4GB DDR3L SDRAM
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD
    Internet Speed
    10Mb/s 3 Network HSPA+
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    IE11 and Firefox
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AddRAM

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My Windows 8.1 Pro flies, must be your Dell install. As suggested if the Classic Shell will help, by all means add it.

Classic Shell - Start menu and other Windows enhancements

But once you know how to get around 8.1, you don`t even need that ;)

Wireless connection drops, connect it with a cable, wireless sucks.

IE crashes, install Chrome.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 7 Pro x64 Windows 10 Pro x64 Build 9926
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    PC/Desktop
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    Gateway GT5404
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    Intel Core 2 Duo E6700 @ 2.66 GHz
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    Intel D945GCL
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    4GB PC2 6400 @ 800 MHz CL 6-6-6-18
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    MSI GTX660 TF3 2GB
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    Realtek HD
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    Gateway FPD1975W
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    1440 x 900
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    Samsung 850 EVO 120GB SSD / WD 500GB
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    Corsair HX750
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    OEM
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    Gateway KB-0401
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    Gateway MOAKUO
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    Verizon Quantum Gateway 60 / 60
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    Chrome / IE11
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    MSE / Defender / MBAM

whs

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I think Classic Shell is an unnecessary detour. Why remain in the past. With a right click on the start flag you get most facilities you need.
 

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System One

  • OS
    Vista and Win7
    System Manufacturer/Model
    2xHP, 2xGateway, 1xDell, 1xSony
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    5 SSDs and 12 HDs

caperjack

Just the Janitor
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I think Classic Shell is an unnecessary detour. Why remain in the past. With a right click on the start flag you get most facilities you need.
Xzackly .love it .just the way it is,.iam also running win10 ,had it set to booting with the start menu for a bit but had to set it to boot to start screen
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    win8.1.1 enterprise
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    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Hinze57
    CPU
    AMD FX 6100 6core 3.30gHz
    Motherboard
    gigibyte ga-78lmy-s2p
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    4gig ddr3
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    Radon hd5000 Series
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    onboard realtek hd
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    19" viewsonic/ 22"Samsung
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    1680x1050
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    128gig ssd Kingston
    80gig WD 10000 rpm spinner
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    micro
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    microsoft curve 200
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    high speed 20
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    ie 11
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    windows defender
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    updated enterprise apr 2/14

stringjunky

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My mind is still open how my W8.1 will finally operate and look but I use Classic Shell because when I was in Start and selected a program it put me in the desktop, so I thought "What's the point of me being in Metro if I'm put in the desktop?". It looked a waste of a couple of clicks to go back to Metro Start so I made my base in the desktop. I don't use any Metro apps really, only programs. I'm looking for the shortest, most uninterrupted paths to achieve my objectives; efficiency. I'm not saying I've found it but that's the current state of my knowledge.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 with Bing x64
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire ES1-512-CSYW
    CPU
    Intel Celeron N2840 @ 2.16GHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Aspire ES1-512 BIOS: Insyde Corps V1.07
    Memory
    4GB DDR3L SDRAM
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD
    Internet Speed
    10Mb/s 3 Network HSPA+
    Browser
    IE11 and Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender

popeye

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I like 8.1 and I like Classic Shell. The "Start Menu" in 8.1 and 10 is still not really the start menu I like. Maybe I am the minority.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Acer V3 771G-6443
    CPU
    i5-3230m
    Motherboard
    Acer VA70_HC (U3E1)
    Memory
    8GB DDR3 PC3-12800 (800 MHz)
    Graphics Card(s)
    HD4000 + GeForce GT 730M
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17" Generic PnP Display on Intel HD Graphics 4000
    Screen Resolution
    1600x900 pixels
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250 GB
    ADATA SSD SP900 128GB
    PSU
    90 watt brick
    Mouse
    Bluetooth
    Antivirus
    Comodo
    Other Info
    Asus RT-AC56R dual-band WRT router (Merlin firmware). Intel 7260.HMWWB.R dual-band ac wireless adapter.

stringjunky

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I like 8.1 and I like Classic Shell. The "Start Menu" in 8.1 and 10 is still not really the start menu I like. Maybe I am the minority.

I'm with you, Classic Shell made my introduction a lot more bearable.
 

My Computer

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  • OS
    Windows 8.1 with Bing x64
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire ES1-512-CSYW
    CPU
    Intel Celeron N2840 @ 2.16GHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Aspire ES1-512 BIOS: Insyde Corps V1.07
    Memory
    4GB DDR3L SDRAM
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD
    Internet Speed
    10Mb/s 3 Network HSPA+
    Browser
    IE11 and Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender

whs

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You have to be adventurous. When I was young, we used to be more daring. ;)
 

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    Vista and Win7
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    5 SSDs and 12 HDs

Allison

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I think the key is just getting used to the changes in 8.1. I'm still not a fan of the search but it's cleaner than 8 and crisp in use. I tried Classic Shell a while back and it was easier just to adjust rather than use the uncanny valley start menu options. 8.1 gives me much more recourse in system maintenance rather than hitting blue screens- stability in 8.1 is better than 8- I'd say Windows 7 but then I was running off weak hardware back then so I don't know what caused all the irritations.
 

My Computer

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  • OS
    Windows 10 64-bit/ Windows 8.1 64-bit
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Desktop: Allison Designs by Austin Computers / Laptop: Toshiba Satellite L50-A006
    CPU
    Intel Core i5- 4590/ Intel Core i5 processor 4200U
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte H97M-D3H/ ?
    Memory
    16 GB Kingston at 1600 Mhz/ 4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte Geforce GTX 760 OC Windforce (2 GB/256-bit)/ nVIDIA GeForce GT 740M 2GB
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    Onboard Audio'
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    AOC 2216Vw 22"/ 15.6" Widescreen HD LED Backlit Display
    Screen Resolution
    1680*1050 / 1366*768
    Hard Drives
    2 TB Western Digital Black Caviar Drive (7200 RPM)/ 750GB (5400rpm) with Toshiba HDD Accelerator
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    Coolermaster 750W VS Series 80+ Gold Power Supply (Desktop Only)
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    Corsair Carbide SPEC-02 Mid Tower Gaming Case (Desktop Only)
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    Two Case 120 mm fans and GPU, CPU, PSU cooled by own fans respectively. (Desktop Only)
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    Microsoft Wired Keyboard Desktop 600 (Desktop Only)
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    Internet Explorer and Google Chrome
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    Norton 360 by Symantec

DustSailor

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The ONLY reason I upgraded to 8 was the apps. I got used to the new start screen, etc. and now it is like my first language. But obviously it wasn't that way at first. I actively pursued keyboard shortcuts and the like to speed everything up, and I have got much faster in getting where I need to be. Someone mentioned 17 second boot times... holy cow! I have that with XP, now its about 5, 10.

7 was great... way better than XP (nice in its prime, but I can no longer stand XP). But to me at least, 8 is better with its additions to 7.
 

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    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center x64
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    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
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    Intel Core i7-3820 CPU OC @ 3.80GHz
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte G1.Assassin2
    Memory
    Corsair Dominator 16GB Quad Channel DDR3
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    Nvidia by EVGA - GeForce GTX 670 4GB
    Sound Card
    On board Creative SB X-Fi
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    acer 24" H243H
    Screen Resolution
    1920 X 1080
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    Main 500GB Hybrid Drive @ 7,200RPM
    Secondary OCZ SSD Vertex 3 Max IOPS
    PSU
    Silent Pro 1000w gold 80+
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    Azza Hurrican 2000
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    Liquid CPU cooler & fans
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    Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000
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    Tek Republic Wired Laser Mouse
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    Defender, Malwarebytes

popeye

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You have to be adventurous. When I was young, we used to be more daring. ;)

Nothing to do with daring. I'm old and have adjusted (daring) since the DOS days, just know what I like and touch GUI on my big laptop is not it. I like a classic desk top and will stay with it. I use touch on my 7" tablets and smart phone, that is far as I want to go.
Don't like the blocky looking stuff either on my PC. I like normal icons. Again, not trying to force anything on anybody, only saying what I personally like and will stay with for the foreseeable future.

And I haven't used Store yet. :)
 

My Computer

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  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit
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    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Acer V3 771G-6443
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    i5-3230m
    Motherboard
    Acer VA70_HC (U3E1)
    Memory
    8GB DDR3 PC3-12800 (800 MHz)
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    HD4000 + GeForce GT 730M
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    Realtek High Definition Audio
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    17" Generic PnP Display on Intel HD Graphics 4000
    Screen Resolution
    1600x900 pixels
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250 GB
    ADATA SSD SP900 128GB
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    90 watt brick
    Mouse
    Bluetooth
    Antivirus
    Comodo
    Other Info
    Asus RT-AC56R dual-band WRT router (Merlin firmware). Intel 7260.HMWWB.R dual-band ac wireless adapter.

Atomic77

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So here I am world. I am now a person with Windows 8.1 and so far I like it. Until after Christmas 2014 I had been running on a desktop using Windows Vista witch I had been on for 6 years. With every change there are things to get used too but I have learned to expect that. When it comes to computers I try to use technology that I know for as long as I can till It stops doing what I need it to do.:winkey:
 

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    Windows 8.1 64 bit
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    HP Envy 700-414
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    Intel Core i5 4570 3.20ghz
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    12 gigabyte
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    INTEL HD 4600
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    2TB
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    460w
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    Hp Wireless cichlet style
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    Logitech m 100
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    Charter Cable Wireless
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    INTERNET EXPLORER 11
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    NORTON 360

Jesse Williams

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It doesn't bother me. I have Windows 7 on my laptop and 8.1 on my desktop. I probably won't ever use the classic shell, because I don't like modding my computers.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 8.1 64-bit
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire X (AXC-603-UW12)
    CPU
    Intel Celeron J1850 @ 1.99GHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Aspire XC-603G (SOCKET 0)
    Memory
    4.00GB DDR3 @ 551MHz (9-7-7-14)
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    Intel HD Graphics (Acer Incorporated [ALI])
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    Realtek High Definition Audio
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    Acer S200HQL
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    (1600x900@60Hz)
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    Acer Wired Keyboard
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    Acer USB Optical Mouse
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    High Speed Internet
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    Internet Explorer 11
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender

Jesse Williams

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The only reason why I upgraded to 8, was because my vista computer crashed again. I got tired of having issues with Vista, so I gave it to my cousin and bought the 8.1 desktop.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 8.1 64-bit
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    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire X (AXC-603-UW12)
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    Intel Celeron J1850 @ 1.99GHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Aspire XC-603G (SOCKET 0)
    Memory
    4.00GB DDR3 @ 551MHz (9-7-7-14)
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    Intel HD Graphics (Acer Incorporated [ALI])
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    Realtek High Definition Audio
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    Acer S200HQL
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    Acer Wired Keyboard
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    Acer USB Optical Mouse
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    Internet Explorer 11
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    Windows Defender

jimbo45

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Hi there

Maybe a better (more interesting solution) -- download the Tech. Preview of W10 - that works more or less in the W7 way (desktop mode) if that's what you want. It's FREE currently so nothing wrong with trying it out --you can hide all the Metro garbage too.

W10 Forums has a lot of help if you get stuck too.

Cheers
jimbo
 

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    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10
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    PC/Desktop
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    1 X LG 40 inch TV
    Hard Drives
    SSD's * 3 (Samsung 840 series) 250 GB
    2 X 3 TB sata
    5 X 1 TB sata
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    0.12 GB/s (120Mb/s)
I use Windows 8.1 just like i would Windows 7..

-I'm using a desktop..
-you right click anything you need special menus for..
-you dont still need search even, just use agent ransack or Everything or Locate32
- if you do need to use the windows 8 settings, you just scroll to the far right and go to "pc settings" (charms crap)
-it's exactly like windows 7 but better..

you can COMPLETELY ignore the tiles and windows 8 things you say you hate soo much..

my desktop.. i use it just like windows 7! but its windows 8.1!

you don't need classic shell or anything extra.. you can set your desktop to show up from when you boot windows 8

everything you need in windows 7 is in windows 8.1 but better!

AAAh!!

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  • OS
    Windows 7
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Dell 5200
    CPU
    2
    Memory
    8
    Hard Drives
    5400
sorry this is the desktop button!.. new pic below..

anyway, go through the tabs and options -you will see you can even turn off those windows store things and everything..

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    Windows 7
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    Dell 5200
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    5400

SaggyMaggyPoo

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You have to be adventurous. When I was young, we used to be more daring. ;)

Yeah, those good old days of fashion disasters and being one of the first to have a mobile phone - even if it was bigger and heavier than many current laptops and came with a contract that meant others were carrying phones as small as a chocolate bar before it expired :D.
 

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  • OS
    Win8.1 64bit, Windows 10 TP on VMWare Player
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    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 15 3521
    CPU
    1.80 gigahertz Intel Core i5-3337U
    Motherboard
    Dell Inc. 0010T1 A00
    Memory
    8gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD Graphics 4000
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    Realtek HD Audio & Intel Display Audio
    Hard Drives
    TOSHIBA MQ01ABD050 [Hard drive] (500.11 GB)
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    Additional fan
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    Kensington Trackball
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    IE
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