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Solved Windows Developer Preview on old PC

jygoro

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Hi, I need to know if someone with Athlon XP or Sempron CPU has also problems with Windows Developer Preview. Every time I run Services or EventViewer...etc the application crashes with the culprit being d3d10warp.dll.


I tested it in 3 PCs with different video cards and now I suspect is the CPU. (which lacks SSE2 instructions)
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows Consumer Preview
    CPU
    Athlon XP 2800+
    Motherboard
    Abit NF7-S V2.0
    Memory
    2 Gb DDR Kingston
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS AH3450/512Mb (ATI HD3450) AGP
    Sound Card
    NVIDIA SoundStorm
    Monitor(s) Displays
    TFT 17"
    Screen Resolution
    1280x1024
    PSU
    Levicom 420W

vrosa

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I dont think it's the CPU, at least there's no reference to SSE2 instructions in the official requirements.

1 gigahertz (GHz) or faster 32-bit (x86) or 64-bit (x64) processor
1 gigabyte (GB) RAM (32-bit) or 2 GB RAM (64-bit)
16 GB available hard disk space (32-bit) or 20 GB (64-bit)
DirectX 9 graphics device with WDDM 1.0 or higher driver
Taking advantage of touch input requires a screen that supports multi-touch
To run Metro style Apps, you need a screen resolution of 1024 X 768 or greater
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10.0.10122
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    My Build - Vorttex Ultimate
    CPU
    Core i7 @ 4500 MHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS Z87-Plus
    Memory
    32GB DDR3 @ 1822 MHz (OC)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon R9 280X 3GB @ 1180 / 6800 MHz
    Sound Card
    7.1 HDA
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LCD LG 22" + CRT LG 17"
    Screen Resolution
    1760 x 1320 / 1280 x 960
    Hard Drives
    1 x 240 GB SSD (System)
    3 x 500 GB HDD (Data/Media)
    1 x 2000 GB e-HDD (Backup)
    PSU
    ThermalTake 1000W PSU
    Case
    Corsair Carbide R300
    Cooling
    Corsair H60 (Push-Pull)
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Wireless Keyboard
    Mouse
    Microsoft Wireless Mouse
    Internet Speed
    60 Mbps (Down) 5 Mbps (Up)
    Browser
    IE, FF, Chrome
    Antivirus
    AVG Internet Security 2015
    Other Info
    Some wired stuff

jygoro

New Member
I dont think it's the CPU, at least there's no reference to SSE2 instructions in the official requirements.

1 gigahertz (GHz) or faster 32-bit (x86) or 64-bit (x64) processor
1 gigabyte (GB) RAM (32-bit) or 2 GB RAM (64-bit)
16 GB available hard disk space (32-bit) or 20 GB (64-bit)
DirectX 9 graphics device with WDDM 1.0 or higher driver
Taking advantage of touch input requires a screen that supports multi-touch
To run Metro style Apps, you need a screen resolution of 1024 X 768 or greater
Thanks vrosa. You are right about the requirements that's why I think it could be a bug. And is not the first time Microsoft makes this type of mistake.
Visual Studio 2010 RTM had a bug which any program or dll compiled with it would fail in a Athlon XP. (SSE2 instructions were always used even if the CPU didn't support them)
It was fixed in VS2010 SP1.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows Consumer Preview
    CPU
    Athlon XP 2800+
    Motherboard
    Abit NF7-S V2.0
    Memory
    2 Gb DDR Kingston
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS AH3450/512Mb (ATI HD3450) AGP
    Sound Card
    NVIDIA SoundStorm
    Monitor(s) Displays
    TFT 17"
    Screen Resolution
    1280x1024
    PSU
    Levicom 420W

CPJames

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Member
I have a AMD Sempron 3500+ CPU and it seems to run WDP okay. However, I haven't tried to run event viewer yet -I'll report back later what happens (since I'm on another computer at the moment).

Update

Event viewer works fine for me.
 
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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 1501
    CPU
    AMD Sempron Processor 3500+ 1.8 GHz
    Memory
    1GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Radeon Xpress 1150
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Other Info
    Dell Wireless 1390 802.11b/g mini-card

jygoro

New Member
I have a AMD Sempron 3500+ CPU and it seems to run WDP okay. However, I haven't tried to run event viewer yet -I'll report back later what happens (since I'm on another computer at the moment).

Update

Event viewer works fine for me.
Thanks a lot for testing. Your processor is a Mobile Sempron, right? Those has SSE2 instructions so that's why it works fine.

I have tested with 2 more PCs, Athlon XP 3000+ and AMD Athlon64 3200+ and the result confirm my suspicions. The Athlon64 didn't crash because it has SSE2, the Athlon XP 3000+ crash because it lacks those instructions.

So after this I can confirm WDP doesn't work well with SocketA processors. (Athlon XP /Desktop Sempron)
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows Consumer Preview
    CPU
    Athlon XP 2800+
    Motherboard
    Abit NF7-S V2.0
    Memory
    2 Gb DDR Kingston
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS AH3450/512Mb (ATI HD3450) AGP
    Sound Card
    NVIDIA SoundStorm
    Monitor(s) Displays
    TFT 17"
    Screen Resolution
    1280x1024
    PSU
    Levicom 420W

gdm40

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Member
Nice catch!

Doubly Confirmed, I just loaded WDP onto an old Athlon XP1800 system, which I know lacks SSE2.
I received an identical crash to what you described when trying to run both Services and Event Viewer.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    7&8
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Lennovo M55p
    CPU
    E6600
    Motherboard
    Lennovo
    Memory
    8gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidia 9500gt

CPJames

Member
Member
I have a AMD Sempron 3500+ CPU and it seems to run WDP okay. However, I haven't tried to run event viewer yet -I'll report back later what happens (since I'm on another computer at the moment).

Update

Event viewer works fine for me.
Thanks a lot for testing. Your processor is a Mobile Sempron, right? Those has SSE2 instructions so that's why it works fine.

I have tested with 2 more PCs, Athlon XP 3000+ and AMD Athlon64 3200+ and the result confirm my suspicions. The Athlon64 didn't crash because it has SSE2, the Athlon XP 3000+ crash because it lacks those instructions.

So after this I can confirm WDP doesn't work well with SocketA processors. (Athlon XP /Desktop Sempron)

Yeh I have AMD Mobile Sempron Processor. Extract from Wikipedia regarding Sempron 3500+ model CPU's:

"Keene" (Socket S1, F2, 90 nm, Low power)

After so more research found out my CPU supports 64bit -only problem is I don't know if I could find all the 64bit drivers for my Dell Inspiron 1501.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 1501
    CPU
    AMD Sempron Processor 3500+ 1.8 GHz
    Memory
    1GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Radeon Xpress 1150
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Other Info
    Dell Wireless 1390 802.11b/g mini-card

jygoro

New Member
Nice catch!

Doubly Confirmed, I just loaded WDP onto an old Athlon XP1800 system, which I know lacks SSE2.
I received an identical crash to what you described when trying to run both Services and Event Viewer.
Thanks a lot for testing! I hope they fix this because other than that issue Windows 8 runs beautifully on this PC.


I have a AMD Sempron 3500+ CPU and it seems to run WDP okay. However, I haven't tried to run event viewer yet -I'll report back later what happens (since I'm on another computer at the moment).

Update

Event viewer works fine for me.
Thanks a lot for testing. Your processor is a Mobile Sempron, right? Those has SSE2 instructions so that's why it works fine.

I have tested with 2 more PCs, Athlon XP 3000+ and AMD Athlon64 3200+ and the result confirm my suspicions. The Athlon64 didn't crash because it has SSE2, the Athlon XP 3000+ crash because it lacks those instructions.

So after this I can confirm WDP doesn't work well with SocketA processors. (Athlon XP /Desktop Sempron)

Yeh I have AMD Mobile Sempron Processor. Extract from Wikipedia regarding Sempron 3500+ model CPU's:

"Keene" (Socket S1, F2, 90 nm, Low power)

After so more research found out my CPU supports 64bit -only problem is I don't know if I could find all the 64bit drivers for my Dell Inspiron 1501.
1Gb of RAM? I think you should have at least 2Gb for WDP 64 bits.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows Consumer Preview
    CPU
    Athlon XP 2800+
    Motherboard
    Abit NF7-S V2.0
    Memory
    2 Gb DDR Kingston
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS AH3450/512Mb (ATI HD3450) AGP
    Sound Card
    NVIDIA SoundStorm
    Monitor(s) Displays
    TFT 17"
    Screen Resolution
    1280x1024
    PSU
    Levicom 420W

Beta

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Member
I have a AMD Sempron 3500+ CPU and it seems to run WDP okay. However, I haven't tried to run event viewer yet -I'll report back later what happens (since I'm on another computer at the moment).

Update

Event viewer works fine for me.
Thanks a lot for testing. Your processor is a Mobile Sempron, right? Those has SSE2 instructions so that's why it works fine.

I have tested with 2 more PCs, Athlon XP 3000+ and AMD Athlon64 3200+ and the result confirm my suspicions. The Athlon64 didn't crash because it has SSE2, the Athlon XP 3000+ crash because it lacks those instructions.

So after this I can confirm WDP doesn't work well with SocketA processors. (Athlon XP /Desktop Sempron)

Yeh I have AMD Mobile Sempron Processor. Extract from Wikipedia regarding Sempron 3500+ model CPU's:

"Keene" (Socket S1, F2, 90 nm, Low power)

After so more research found out my CPU supports 64bit -only problem is I don't know if I could find all the 64bit drivers for my Dell Inspiron 1501.

I have a HP 5215us and it took me about 6 weeks to find all of the drivers for 64 bit. All you realy need to know is the chipsets being used on your computer and have a list writen down of the drivers you currently have. A great placle to look is Windows Update Catalog. Just google that and it will come up. its not the easiest place to find drivers but they are all there. Most of the pain services use a program that looks at this page and gets them from there.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 7 x64
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Asus
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge @5.00 GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS Maximus IV Extreme-Z LGA 1155
    Memory
    2 x Corsair Dominator 2GB DDR3 @1866 (Old DDR3 1600 Sticks, plan to upgrade)
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI 4850 (I know it's old, plan to upgrade, taking donations)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC889
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-32EX500
    Screen Resolution
    1980x1080P
    Hard Drives
    1 x Corsair Force Series GT CSSD-F60GBGT-BK Windows
    2 x Western Digital Caviar Black Sata III 750GB (Raid 0)Programs
    1 x Western Digital Caviar Black Sata III 1TB - Media
    2 x Western Digital Caviar Black Sata II 640GB (Raid 0) Mac OS X
    PSU
    Corsair Professional Series Gold AX850
    Case
    Corsair 800D
    Cooling
    Corsair H80 High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler
    Keyboard
    HP Wireless Elite Keyboard
    Mouse
    HP Wireless Elite Mouse
    Internet Speed
    DSL, VisionTek Bigfoot Killer 2100 Gaming Network Card and Internaly Installed Linksys WUSB600N
    Other Info
    4 x GELID Solutions FN-TX12-15 120mm Case Fan with Superior Temperature Control
    1 x Corsair 140mm Case Fan
    1 x SilverStone FP55B Aluminum front panel 5.25" to a 3.5" bay converter
    1 x Ultra Card Reader
    1 x Sony Blu-ray Burner BD-5300S-0B
    1 x 2GB Internaly Installed Flash Drive For Mac OS X Boot
    1 x Internal USB 3.0 Header to 2 USB 3.0 Female Adaptor
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