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Windows Action Center weird behavior


mibaup

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#1
Hello,

There is a weird issue with the flag symbol of the Action Center at the notification area:
The flag has a red X on it, and it says : "Solve PC issues: 2 important messages",
when I click on it I see these 2 messages:
-Spyware and unwanted software protection (important)
-Turn on virus protection (important)

When I click on either of these messages, it opens "system32" folder and nothing else happens.

By the way, my antivirus and anti-malware are both showing that they run without problems : I'm using Avira and I'm still during the trial period of MBAM full version.

What is the problem?

Thanks
 

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Nuccii

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#2
Verify that you have not temporarily disabled your anti virus program. You may have to uninstall and reinstall Avira.
 

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gator2013

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#3
Hello,
By the way, my antivirus and anti-malware are both showing that they run without problems : I'm using Avira and I'm still during the trial period of MBAM full version.
What is the problem?
Thanks
Do you have the Real Time Malwarebytes Protection turned ON? If so you might try turning off the Real Time Protection as it may have a conflict with Avira as you should not have two different types of AV running simultaneously. I have both Norton Internet Security as well as the full version of Malwarebytes (the PRO version) on my desktop and if I have both turned on I do get some minor issues, not full crashes or freezes or anything but errors. I use MB primarily as a scanner. Norton is my primary AV.
 

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mibaup

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#4
Thanks!
I did a few "Updates and restarts" and it disappeared :party:

**Update :eek:: 10 seconds after writing this message, the problem returned.

**Update 2: I realized that the problem is that "Windows defender" is turned off... Does that mean that Avira is turning it off?
 

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    Windows 8.1 64-bit
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    Lenovo
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    i5-4210m
    Memory
    4GB RAM
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon R5 m230 2GB + Intel HD Graphics 4600 (Switchable Graphics)
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Nuccii

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#5
Windows Defender is automatically turned off when you install another anti virus program like Avira. You cannot have two av programs running at the same time.
 

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SaggyMaggyPoo

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#6
I sometimes get these warnings in Action Centre, but when I check, my AV and Firewall are working. In my case it seems to be that something doesn't load properly at Startup. Rebooting generally solves the problem (though I see it came back for you after a reboot).
 

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mibaup

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#7
Yes, it did came back. It's weird, because if, as you said, an anti virus program turns Windows defender off, it should replace it with its own protection, no?
I mean, when I had another anti virus I didn't get this message (Had Avast before, maybe I should return to Avast then). But from the Action Center it seems like nothing is protecting my PC now, not Defender, and not Avira.
And what's with the system32 folder opening when I click on "Turn on now"? :rolleyes:
 

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    Windows 8.1 64-bit
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    Lenovo
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    i5-4210m
    Memory
    4GB RAM
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon R5 m230 2GB + Intel HD Graphics 4600 (Switchable Graphics)
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    15.6"
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768

Nuccii

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#8

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    windows 8.1 Update 1 Pro 64bit
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    Pavillion H8-1202
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    I7-2600 @ 3.4 GHz
    Motherboard
    PEGATRON
    Memory
    8 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NIVDIA GeForce GT 520
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC656GR CODEC
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung SyncMaster S22B350
    Screen Resolution
    1920X1080 32 bit color
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    Samsung 850 EVO SSD 500GB
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SaggyMaggyPoo

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#9
I also tried clicking to turn the AV and firewall on in the Action Centre, but nothing happened at all - I didn't see the system 32 folder.

Each time it happened to me I checked and my antivirus was definitely active. Also I could see that it had updated itself very recently, another indication that it was active. Certainly in my case it was an issue that disappeared on reboot.

And you are correct: if you install an AV that turns Defender off; if you uninstall, Defender should automatically turn on again (in my experience anyhow).
 

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    Win8.1 64bit, Windows 10 TP on VMWare Player
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    Dell Inspiron 15 3521
    CPU
    1.80 gigahertz Intel Core i5-3337U
    Motherboard
    Dell Inc. 0010T1 A00
    Memory
    8gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD Graphics 4000
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD Audio & Intel Display Audio
    Hard Drives
    TOSHIBA MQ01ABD050 [Hard drive] (500.11 GB)
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    Additional fan
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    Kensington Trackball
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    IE
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Cliff S

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#10
If you are absolutely sure and there is an indicator in the system tray to show your AV is up and running, you can also go to Action Center>Change Action Center settings and disable Virus Protection warnings in Security Messages.
 

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