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What about all the BSODs, 99% 64 bit? Any chance of a fix soon?

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LOL good luck with that happening.
 

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i think it's likely to happen. the limitations of 32 bit memory mapping are holding up the industry so it's natural that they will change to a 64bit exclusive until the need arises for something higher.
 

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Most machines can't run a 64-bit OS because of these systems hardware. So I don't think it would be a wise decision for Windows to create a 64-bit only OS.

Sean
Alright.
First off, lets READ the thread before we reply. If you HAD, you would know that MOST computers have been x64 capable for YEARS.
So I don't know where you got your information (especially living in the US).

Second, I really hope it is only x64. I think a good option would be to offer a free download of a VM with XP preinstalled on it, for x86 compatibility. This way, people can keep their XP and ancient programs, and everyone else can move into the future.

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tbernstein

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Who'd upgrade?

I can't help wondering, reading through this thread, how many users of machines that aren't X64 capable would be thinking about upgrading them.
By definition they are unlikley to be enthusiastic upgraders or wanting to spend good money on a whole new 64bit OS if they're getting the uses they want from existing kit- otherwise they wouldn't be using the machine they have or the 32bit OS either.
Even the majority of upgrades from Vista to 7 will have been the cheaper upgrade versions that can't go from 32 to 64 bit.
 

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Yukino

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Only three months ago, before I got my new computer, I had an Intel Pentium T2060 dual core, and it didn't have 64 bit support.
I can tell you this: IT WAS HORRIBLY FRUSTRATING.....Everybody is talking about 64 bit and I felt like the only one saying that 64 bit is unnecessary.

My point: There are many users who are 32 bit processor only and microsoft cannot alientate them.
64 bit also means more memory to handle and load during bootup so slower 64 bit processors are better off running 32 bit (though with less security and slightly slower disk performance)
 

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Only three months ago, before I got my new computer, I had an Intel Pentium T2060 dual core, and it didn't have 64 bit support.
I can tell you this: IT WAS HORRIBLY FRUSTRATING.....Everybody is talking about 64 bit and I felt like the only one saying that 64 bit is unnecessary.

My point: There are many users who are 32 bit processor only and microsoft cannot alientate them.
64 bit also means more memory to handle and load during bootup so slower 64 bit processors are better off running 32 bit (though with less security and slightly slower disk performance)

From Intel, All the Core 2 Solo, Duo and Quad + i3, i5, i7 are 64-bit.
Thats nearly ALL their processors, excluding Pentium and Celeron series, which are horrible anyway. This means most of Intels processors support 64-bit. And when Eight will be released, even more will have gone 64-bit.
 

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From Intel, All the Core 2 Solo, Duo and Quad + i3, i5, i7 are 64-bit.
Thats nearly ALL their processors, excluding Pentium and Celeron series, which are horrible anyway. This means most of Intels processors support 64-bit. And when Eight will be released, even more will have gone 64-bit.
Coolness, you are correct about 64 bit processors. according to this link "The first AMD64-based processor, the Opteron, was released in April 2003." That will soon be 7 years! I share the disappointment in that 64 bit has not developed more.

But what some other posters have stated is also true in that there are still limited choices of 64 bit enabled hardware, drivers, and software. In Video for example. Also 64 bit scanners (and still many printers). Many of today's computers, even those equipped with 64 bit processors, do not have adequate hardware elsewhere to make 64 bit practical.

The market is guided by supply and demand, not by forcing change.
 

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MS would be shooting themselves in the foot to make Windows 8 a 64bit only OS... There are still a majority of users that run 32bit machines, and at SF, the majority of problems are with 64bit versions of Seven... Just my thoughts... ;)
 

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MS would be shooting themselves in the foot to make Windows 8 a 64bit only OS... There are still a majority of users that run 32bit machines, and at SF, the majority of problems are with 64bit versions of Seven... Just my thoughts... ;)

While I agree, its the fact that we are catering to older machines, 32-bit architectures, etc. That progress with 64-bit applications and I'm betting even some progress on Windows itself is being hindered.

I say go 64-bit only. If people really NEED Windows 8, fine, just make sure you have a capable machine. Microsoft should not need to make every version of Windows able to be run on machines such as the ones my grandparents have (2.0Ghz Pent4, 256MB RAM.. its horrid).

Microsoft needs to push 64-bit more, its the only way we'll see more progress with almost everything, I'm sure a lot will complain "Now my 10-year-old desktop cannot run the latest Windows!". Well I say boohoo, get over it, upgrade if you 'need to have the latest'.
 

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From Intel, All the Core 2 Solo, Duo and Quad + i3, i5, i7 are 64-bit.
Thats nearly ALL their processors, excluding Pentium and Celeron series, which are horrible anyway. This means most of Intels processors support 64-bit. And when Eight will be released, even more will have gone 64-bit.


Hate to disagree but I have a dell inspiron 1405 core "duo" and it does not support 64 bit.

Now to the holy war I can see both sides of this one. I dont think MS will shoot themselves in the foot. They want to sell as many copies of 8 as they can.

How many MS OS'es supported 16 and 32 before support for 16 disappeared. I think they will support 32

Unless MS gets their act together on 64bit I own a 64 bit capable and am running 32 bit on it. Way to many BSOD's in 64bit, way to many driver problems

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whs

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I hope they will have a 32bit also because 64bit is a pain in Win7 - and that's all the OEMs install. My gadgets on the transferred Vista sidebar don't work, for 64bit Revo I have to pay, etc.
I think they make a mistake pushing 64bit (at least now). They should wait until everybody is ready. Reminds me the early days of Vista.
 

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I hope they will have a 32bit also because 64bit is a pain in Win7 - and that's all the OEMs install. My gadgets on the transferred Vista sidebar don't work, for 64bit Revo I have to pay, etc.
I think they make a mistake pushing 64bit (at least now). They should wait until everybody is ready. Reminds me the early days of Vista.

It'll take decades if they 'wait' for everyone to be ready. A push is needed. Besides, if they made Windows 8 64-bit only, that means they can focus more on ONE architecture with fixing bugs.
 

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It'll take decades if they 'wait' for everyone to be ready. A push is needed. Besides, if they made Windows 8 64-bit only, that means they can focus more on ONE architecture with fixing bugs.

I am not so shure about "decades". I don't know whether you remember Febr.07. Half of the drivers did not work then - same for many programs. I remember being on the phone with Linksys for 3 hours to configure my router that I bought 2 hours earlier. But 6 months later things were a lot smoother.
 

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I am not so shure about "decades". I don't know whether you remember Febr.07. Half of the drivers did not work then - same for many programs. I remember being on the phone with Linksys for 3 hours to configure my router that I bought 2 hours earlier. But 6 months later things were a lot smoother.

That was also 3 years ago. ;) Although no I do not remember it. Lol

Maybe not decades, but who knows? Obviously the move to 64-bit is speeding up since OEM's are preinstalling 64-bit on almost every machine capable of running 64-bit. Microsoft (in my opinion) needs to just push it. If people really NEED the latest OS, get a new PC or one that can handle 64-bit. Microsoft shouldn't need to cater to old hardware forever.
 

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That was also 3 years ago. ;) Although no I do not remember it. Lol

Maybe not decades, but who knows? Obviously the move to 64-bit is speeding up since OEM's are preinstalling 64-bit on almost every machine capable of running 64-bit. Microsoft (in my opinion) needs to just push it. If people really NEED the latest OS, get a new PC or one that can handle 64-bit. Microsoft shouldn't need to cater to old hardware forever.

In principle I agree with you. This vintage stuff is in the way of progress. But the timing must be right. Maybe a few months of agony will solve it. It is just annoying if some of your pet programs don't run.
 

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In principle I agree with you. This vintage stuff is in the way of progress. But the timing must be right. Maybe a few months of agony will solve it. It is just annoying if some of your pet programs don't run.

I can understand people not wanting change because 'everything works fine the way it is now' but we need to keep moving to better things. Keeping support for such outdated hardware isn't helping.

As for programs, well, the developers should be fixing any problems with the most current versions of Windows. :|
 

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but we need to keep moving to better things.

Unfortunately as we move to better things, we also make steps backwards - see the move from Vista to win7. Whilst there are many things that I would call progress, there were also functions lost and in many areas, the user interface was set back to the XP mess.
 

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Please dont kill 32 bit PCs. LOL
 

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It's all about marketing. If they market 64-bit well enough, get the drivers manufacturers with the program so that there are minimal issues, they could sell 64-bit only very successfully.

Everyone wants "The latest and Greatest", so if they market 64-bit as such, they can win over a few people that way. Also cheaper, if they can save operating cost by making 64-bit only and pass it on to the consumers, people will eat it up.
 

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Surely it's all about the driver and application support. The 64-bit OS has been around for years yet how many apps natively support 64-bit? Not even the latest version of Office (2007) has a 64-bit version. I think that while a change is necessary it takes more than just Microsoft to embrace it and developers don't seem that keen at the moment.
 

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