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Windows 8 Shows Desktop Will Go the Way of the Dodo

The Desktop in Windows 8 is little more than an afterthought, by design. I've got the evidence that shows why Microsoft hopes to kill it off as soon as it can.

The first piece of evidence is the most obvious: When you boot into Windows 8, you boot into the Metro interface, not the Desktop. I've nosed around various options, and haven't figured out a way to boot into the Desktop, so even if it's possible, Microsoft has made it very hard to do. (If the last thing you were doing before leaving your PC was use the Desktop, and Windows 8 goes to sleep in the interim, you'll head into the Desktop when you wake it from sleep, of course, because Windows goes to the last app you used before it slept.) If Microsoft wanted to keep the Desktop around for the long term, it would have made it simple to boot into the Desktop.

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tseven

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Yeah although it's nice but overall I feel metro start screen is pretty badly designed. Too bad they don't let you boot to desktop instead. That would be more useful for me. The metro start screen feels as cluttered and chunky as the horrible ribbon interface. And they kept saying how there would be a way for you to jut boot to one or the other. But obviously they haven't made it easy to find(if it's even available at all)
 

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Coke Robot

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Well, that's just Windows 8. The concept of Start Screen is to the "Start" launcher, whether an app or a program, and the Desktop to me seems to serve as the Task Switcher. Start a program, switch between programs in Desktop. Start an app, switch between them from the App Switcher on the left side of the screen.
 

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HPDeskjet

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Kill the desktop and they kill their corporate business. Result - Goodbye Microsoft. Some people use their laptops/ desktops to actually do some REAL work on, not just play a few app games, listen to music and surf the net in a basic manner.

Try setting up an Excel spreadsheet on 10 inch tablet with a touchscreen keyboard. I think anyone would find it an horrific experience with the thing held in one hand whilst trying to type with the other.
 

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Kynix

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HPDeskjet, but please. I'd like to hear what is harder to do / achieve in windows 8 than in windows 7
 

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Vertex

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HPDeskjet, but please. I'd like to hear what is harder to do / achieve in windows 8 than in windows 7
Its harder for some people (not to a great deal) to do things that you usually do with the old Start Menu and button on the full screen Metro that blocks your view of the Desktop and takes more clicks to search for things if you are a new user or if you are not a tablet fanboy or someone with a touchscreen monitor. It takes an extra learning curve which could be a headache for people working in offices and the enterprise levels who would rather stick to the old traditional way that they feel will get the job done quicker for them. The tastes and preferences of people vary, some like it, some don't.
 

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Kynix

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:ditto:
 

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jimbo45

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Kill the desktop and they kill their corporate business. Result - Goodbye Microsoft. Some people use their laptops/ desktops to actually do some REAL work on, not just play a few app games, listen to music and surf the net in a basic manner.

Try setting up an Excel spreadsheet on 10 inch tablet with a touchscreen keyboard. I think anyone would find it an horrific experience with the thing held in one hand whilst trying to type with the other.


Desktops actually ARE on the way out except for really special purposes --gaming say and servers : BUT :

Most organisations now are usually supplying LAPTOPS and often there is a BYO policy (Bring Your Own) - especially if you are an external consultant / contractor.

The other points are valid -- nobody will do even a SIMPLE spread sheet on a Tablet --much less a mobile phone.

A Powerpoint demo is also well nigh impossible to do on a tablet as well.

Once you start attaching extra keyboards etc to a tablet -- well it's no longer a tablet is it.

Case Closed M'lud.
Next case please. !!!!


Cheers
jimbo
 

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krutto

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Why do you need desktop? If it is running in the background, then there isn't a problem! Windows key on Desktop computer brings up most of what you need!
 

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krutto

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I notice that I can't use Internet Explorer 10 in Metro mode to view TED videos. (Haven't tried anything else.) Mind you the videos work when the browser is in Desktop mode. How bizarre!!
 

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Jav

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I notice that I can't use Internet Explorer 10 in Metro mode to view TED videos. (Haven't tried anything else.) Mind you the videos work when the browser is in Desktop mode. How bizarre!!
Try installing Adobe flash player 11.2 RC from here and see whether it works:

http://www.eightforums.com/browsers-mail/2871-latest-version-adobe-flash-player.html
It won't.
Metro IE was created to give plugin free browsing experience. Flash is plugin, thus it won't be loaded.
If you want to watch videos, they should either be HTML 5 based or if it is flash there is a special button to open current tab in desktop IE.

This way Metro IE can remove clutter, security issues, unstabe plugin and resource consumption while having ability to be compatible through desktop IE switch.
 

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brummyfan

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I notice that I can't use Internet Explorer 10 in Metro mode to view TED videos. (Haven't tried anything else.) Mind you the videos work when the browser is in Desktop mode. How bizarre!!
Try installing Adobe flash player 11.2 RC from here and see whether it works:

http://www.eightforums.com/browsers...y using it for Youtube and works in Metro IE.
 

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    Acer Type-2
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    8GB DDR3 1333MHz
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    Intel HD 4000
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    High Definiton Audio Device
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    Generic
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    1366x768
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    Samsung 850 Pro 256GB
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Boastree

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The idea that Metro will kill the Desktop must be coming from the same school that the PC is dead, and alcohol should be ileagal.
 

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Coke Robot

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I highly doubt the Desktop will EVER be killed because of the Windows Explorer, one of the best file navigating/managing software in existence. The Start Screen is somewhat of a complement to it in my eyes...
 

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    ASUS
    CPU
    AMD FX 8320
    Motherboard
    Crosshair V Formula-Z
    Memory
    16 gig DDR3
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS R9 270
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900
    Hard Drives
    1 TB Seagate Barracuda (starting to hate Seagate)
    x2 3 TB Toshibas
    Windows 8.1 is installed on a SanDisk Ultra Plus 256 GB
    PSU
    OCZ 500 watt
    Case
    A current work in progres as I'll be building the physical case myself. It shall be fantastic.
    Cooling
    Arctic Cooler with 3 heatpipes
    Keyboard
    Logitech K750 wireless solar powered keyboard
    Mouse
    Microsoft Touch Mouse
    Browser
    Internet Explorer 11
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender, but I might go back on KIS 2014

xsilverxdark

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My favorite part of W8 is the picture password, and I like the Start Menu, the only thing is my resolution only goes up to 1280x600, which sucks
 

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legacy7955

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I highly doubt the Desktop will EVER be killed because of the Windows Explorer, one of the best file navigating/managing software in existence. The Start Screen is somewhat of a complement to it in my eyes...


This.


For business productivity the desktop still is the best way to go.
 

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