Windows 8 on Android Tablets?

snadge

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My GF wants a Tablet... she fancys the Acer Aconia A210 but it runs Android and she wants Windows 8.
Acer Iconia A210 Tablet PC - Tablet PCs | Ebuyer.com

is it possible to install Windows 8 on that?

Iam also aware that there is an ARM version of Windows 8, is that the 'core' edition?

what do I need to know before making purchasing decisions?


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the ARM version of Windows is Windows RT. the x86/x64 version of Windows is Windows 8. Windows 8 will not run on ARM processors. Windows 8 is designed for x86/x64 processors. No x86 software will run in Windows RT.

If her budget is only around $300 (which is the price of the Acer Iconia), I don't think any Windows tablets are in that range.

But with a Windows tablet (whether it's RT or Windows 8), you can hook it up to your devices like a printer. So you can do things like print your email, bank statements, online coupons, etc. You can hook up a scanner. Windows RT also comes with Microsoft Office 2013 built-in. You can hook up a lot of USB devices like your game controllers. You can hook up a monitor or TV to watch movies on a big screen.

So while a Windows RT tablet with 32 GB (like Microsoft's Surface tablet) costs $500, it comes with Office which is not cheap. So you can factor that into the cost.

But a Windows RT tablet will only run Windows Store (formerly Metro) apps. No desktop apps. The only desktop apps allowed in Windows RT are software like Microsoft Office, Notepad, Calculator, etc. Until x86 software gets ported to work with ARM processors in Windows RT, you would have to live without x86 software like Photoshop.

So if you want to run things like Photoshop or any of the traditional Windows software you download, you need a Windows 8 tablet. The Windows Store is growing fast but it's still small. something like 6000 apps from what I hear so far?
 

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But with a Windows tablet (whether it's RT or Windows 8), you can hook it up to your devices like a printer. So you can do things like print your email, bank statements, online coupons, etc. You can hook up a scanner.


Better make sure the manufacturer have Windows RT drivers for it,
 

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Windows RT isn't a retail version. It only comes preinstalled on Windows 8 RT certified tablet PCs. So your android tablet is out of the question. :(

If your girlfriend needs Windows 8 that runs on a traditional Intel or AMD processor, the price kicks up to at least 800 dollars. I THINK there is one by Acer that is about 650 for an Intel Atom powered one, but I'm not sure. There is the Lenovo Yoga laptop/tablet that is a 1,000 and is powered by the Intel i5. It's a VERY decent PC. I've played with it myself and I would buy just because! :D

There is also the Microsoft Surface RT tablet. This one has Office 2013 preloaded as do other RT tablets. It costs 500 dollars as dirtyvu said, and is so far the least expensive RT tablet out there. It doesn't come with the touch keyboard though, but I would imagine the onscreen keyboard would fair well as the one in Windows is a VERY decent keyboard. I've also played around with the onscreen keyboard and it's surprisingly good!
 

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dirtyvu

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yeah, if I was in the market for a Windows RT tablet, I'd get the Surface. pretty sexy stuff.

but alas, I'd rather have a Windows 8 tablet because of the more powerful hardware and full compatibility with hardware and software. yes, it's more than the typical ARM tablet but then again, it's a Windows 8 tablet that can act as both your laptop and tablet so you don't have to carry 2 devices around.
 

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snadge

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wow - thanks for all the replies and education guys... TABLET NOOB!! hehe

OK

can one wireless print & use word (or word compatible apps) with Android etc? she envisions wireless printing and using word - I envision using it as media player for her bedroom TV (although we will be getting a wireless media player later, so it can stream from a NAS)

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dirtyvu

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no printing with any apple or android or playbook or any other tablet. there are very few peripherals that can connect to the typical tablet. basically, the only things you can connect to android/iOS are bluetooth headsets and bluetooth keyboards. and I doubt they'll ever add the ability to print because they're not going to be adding device drivers support.

companies like HP are trying to add workaround solutions for tablets but none of the solutions have been good.
 

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dirtyvu

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But with a Windows tablet (whether it's RT or Windows 8), you can hook it up to your devices like a printer. So you can do things like print your email, bank statements, online coupons, etc. You can hook up a scanner.

Better make sure the manufacturer have Windows RT drivers for it,

if Windows 8 comes with a driver for your printer, Windows RT will also come with a driver for your printer as most if not all of the drivers were ported. but if you need to download a driver for your printer to work in Windows, then yes, you should check for a Windows RT driver.
 

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snadge

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hmm thats odd, ive been told on TSG that you can wireless print on Android as a lot of printers have 'apps' for them?? plus, her dad has a tablet and he wireless prints with his crappy epson (which we have too, dunno if same model) , I dont think his is windows 8 or windowsRT tablet either...

not too worry she not that bothered about that now, she happy enough to save doc too the cloud and print on PC

all she wants is office with word/spreadsheets that are compatible with MS office... because we have MS Office on Laptop and PC and she uses spreadsheets a lot so compatibility between MS Office and Andoid Office Apps is important (I can see her spreadsheets going t*ts up lol)
 

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cheers,

do you know if u cn get DROPBOX for Android? she uses this on PC and she could save her android office docs there and log into PC and open them in office and print out
 

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There's a dropbox app for Android, I use it every day. Even uploads my pictures from my phone to my DB account automatically.

I'm using an Acer Iconia A500 and have had many Android phones (currently the Galaxy S3), and haven't had any major issues with either. There are several app suites for office compatiblity, but I've not really played much with any of them (aside from opening a word doc or spreadsheet occasionally), and can't comment on printing.

I use my A500 daily for web browsing, reading, and occasionally for watching video (and have used it a few times to play via a HDMI cable, as well as remotely play with the included software to my wifi-enabled TV).

That being said, I'll most likely pick up a mid-range Rt tablet, or if I can get work to swing it, maybe a mid-range Win8 tablet...
 

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There are a few different "Office" type apps for android, I think for example LibreOffice, but to me personally that's like eating the leftovers of a luscious feast.
 

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Android tablets are pretty cool, but they're still mostly consumption devices. That doesn't mean they can't be used to get work done (I've seen some interesting apps, and google apps aren't bad either), but the Surface (and Windows RT in general) is trying to cater to that segment of the market that wants a consumption device but with a better "get work done" story as well. Office 2013 on the RT devices doesn't have some of the capabilities that Office 2013 does on x86 devices (namely things like VB macros and other x86-specific stuff that doesn't have capabilities that exist on ARM), but for MOST use cases on Word, Excel, and PowerPoint, it's actually pretty cool to do work on your tablet. The Mail app can sometimes leave a little to be desired if you have more "work-centric" needs, but then if that's you, an x86/x64 "pro" tablet device is probably better suited, but it'll cost more. That's the tradeoff - tablet needs (music, video, games, web browsing, and basic to medium work-load in Office) at a tablet-like price, or pay a bit more for a real device (that can also be a tablet too) that can do all the work you might need on it, but at the tradeoff of a bit more money up front, and the potential for slightly less battery lifetime. However, they're both still Windows, and a ton of devices work with them without any real issue, which isn't necessarily the case for iOS, and to a lesser extent, Android devices.
 

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snadge

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thanks guys/gals

she just keeps tabs on her monthly ins/outs on spreadsheets with automated calculations, if she can have an app that can do that (example if she amends an outgoing payment it will automatically change the total for the month at bottom) then she will be happy - word for letters...thats all, drop box to put them in :)
 

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Bberretta

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If you want to print from any device look at a program called PaperCut. Another option would be to run Chrome on a computer that is connected to the computer and use Google's Cloud Print. Simple to use and free.
 

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Another option would be to run Chrome on a computer that is connected to the computer and use Google's Cloud Print. Simple to use and free.

that's it , I was surprise how easy it is to install and enable cloud printing
 

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Windows RT would be the only version of Windows that would run on a non-Intel CPU, and the Samsung Galaxy Tab 8.9 has a 1GHz Qualcomm SnapDragon 3 CPU inside. Windows RT currently does not run on the SnapDragon CPU at all, and vNext of Windows RT runs on SnapDragon CPUs, but currently it appears to only run on the 800. Also, that Android device would have to support SecureBoot and native UEFI, and at least the former would not be possible on the 8.9 (I don't know about the UEFI support, but it doesn't matter if it can't do SecureBoot). Even if you could get Windows RT somehow in an installable format (which it isn't provided to anyone outside of OEMs making Windows RT devices), it would be a waste of time.

TL;DR, no, you cannot load Windows of any kind on your Samsung Galaxy Tab.
 

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