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Windows 8 OEM installation nightmare

TimmyG

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I just spent the last weekend trying to 'upgrade' my new HP Envy laptop to Windows 8 Pro using a store bought OEM disc. I bought a Seagate Momentus XT hybrid drive and tried to ghost the factory drive - no luck. I then tried a clean install to the Seagate using the Recovery Discs I prepared originally - discs appear to be corrupted. I also tried booting from OEM disc and it appears that I'm missing a media driver. I read about installing from USB stick - tried that and no luck as the install couldn't see the new drive...

I now have a new notebook with no OS. My last resort at this point is to turn on legacy support in the bios and try to load the OEM disc. So much for trying to speed my laptop up.

Any ideas on how to get this thing working would be greatly appreciated.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8
    System Manufacturer/Model
    HP Envy dv7-7273ca
    CPU
    Intel i7 2.4ghz
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia GeForce GT 630M
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17.3"
    Hard Drives
    Seagate Momentus XT 750GB
    Samsung SSD 32GB

TimmyG

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Update - I changed the BIOS settings to allow for legacy support and Win 8 appears to be loading. Is it possible to switch back to UEFI (turn off legacy support) once installed (or will drive fail to boot)?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8
    System Manufacturer/Model
    HP Envy dv7-7273ca
    CPU
    Intel i7 2.4ghz
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia GeForce GT 630M
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17.3"
    Hard Drives
    Seagate Momentus XT 750GB
    Samsung SSD 32GB

znod

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Sorry, but reinstall necessary to go back to UEFI/GPT.
 

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TimmyG

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Ok, thanks. What a cluster. Funny how UEFI didn't work...
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8
    System Manufacturer/Model
    HP Envy dv7-7273ca
    CPU
    Intel i7 2.4ghz
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia GeForce GT 630M
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17.3"
    Hard Drives
    Seagate Momentus XT 750GB
    Samsung SSD 32GB

znod

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You are very welcome. You referred to a purchased OEM disc. Is it a full install system builder disc--which would come with a product key?
 

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    CPU
    Intel i7-2600K (sometimes OC'd to 4.8 GHz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS P8P67 Deluxe Rev B3
    Memory
    16 GB Corsair Vengeance
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    EVGA 570 SC
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    Gateway
    Hard Drives
    Dual Boot:
    Win7 Ult RAID 0 on OCZ Revo x2 and
    Win7 Ult RAID 0 on Caviar Black SATA 3's
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    Cooler Master 932 HAF
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    Zalman CNPS9900MAX-B CPU Fan
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    Logitech Cordless Desktop MX 5500
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TimmyG

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It is. Product key sticker is to be fastened to the PC...
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8
    System Manufacturer/Model
    HP Envy dv7-7273ca
    CPU
    Intel i7 2.4ghz
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia GeForce GT 630M
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17.3"
    Hard Drives
    Seagate Momentus XT 750GB
    Samsung SSD 32GB

TimmyG

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I ordered HP recovery discs this afternoon. Hopefully restoring from these to the new drive will be possible using UEFI/GPT...
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8
    System Manufacturer/Model
    HP Envy dv7-7273ca
    CPU
    Intel i7 2.4ghz
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia GeForce GT 630M
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17.3"
    Hard Drives
    Seagate Momentus XT 750GB
    Samsung SSD 32GB

Phone Man

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It is. Product key sticker is to be fastened to the PC...

I would not fasten the Product sticker to your PC. With the OEM version of Windows 8 you have Personal Use rights which allow you to transfer the OEM version to another PC that you own. This is a big change from previous Windows that locked the Product Key to the first system.

Jim :cool:
 

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TimmyG

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Thanks Jim. Too bad I won't need the OEM disc if the recovery discs solve the issue...
 

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System One

  • OS
    Windows 8
    System Manufacturer/Model
    HP Envy dv7-7273ca
    CPU
    Intel i7 2.4ghz
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia GeForce GT 630M
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17.3"
    Hard Drives
    Seagate Momentus XT 750GB
    Samsung SSD 32GB

znod

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It is. Product key sticker is to be fastened to the PC...
Not sure upgrading from Win8 to Win8 Pro will work with the OEM. Is this what your were trying to do? Why not do a full clean install using the OEM? And, are you saying that missing the media driver prevented the install using the OEM? Couldn't you install and then find a driver later? EFUI/GPT should be fine with the OEM/clean install--unless the media driver is a real hanging point. See this tutorial.

Jim makes a good point above. Glad you have the HP recovery discs coming.
 

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    Win7 Ult on DIY; Win8 Pro on MBP/Parallels; Win7 Ult on MBP/Boot Camp; Win7 Ult/Win8 Pro on HP
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    DIY Rig; MacBook Pro (MBP)/Parallels/Boot Camp; HP Pavilion dv6500t Laptop
    CPU
    Intel i7-2600K (sometimes OC'd to 4.8 GHz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS P8P67 Deluxe Rev B3
    Memory
    16 GB Corsair Vengeance
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA 570 SC
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Gateway
    Hard Drives
    Dual Boot:
    Win7 Ult RAID 0 on OCZ Revo x2 and
    Win7 Ult RAID 0 on Caviar Black SATA 3's
    PSU
    Cooler Master Silent Pro 1000W
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    Cooler Master 932 HAF
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    Zalman CNPS9900MAX-B CPU Fan
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    Logitech Cordless Desktop MX 5500
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    Logitech Cordless Desktop MX 5500
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    20 Mbps Download/2+ Mbps Upload
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TimmyG

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I was trying to do a clean install using the OEM disc. I tried to create a cloned disc from the factory drive to the new hybrid but with no luck. The media driver was the hiccup point. Then when I tried to use the usb boot, the new drive was not listed as available.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8
    System Manufacturer/Model
    HP Envy dv7-7273ca
    CPU
    Intel i7 2.4ghz
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia GeForce GT 630M
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17.3"
    Hard Drives
    Seagate Momentus XT 750GB
    Samsung SSD 32GB

TimmyG

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I tried to do a clean install on the new drive using the OEM disc. That is when I encountered the missing media driver. This driver issue wasn't a problem when I enabled legacy support. When I tried to do a clean install from a USB key, the hard disk was not listed as available. If I had hair, I'd be bald by now!
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8
    System Manufacturer/Model
    HP Envy dv7-7273ca
    CPU
    Intel i7 2.4ghz
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia GeForce GT 630M
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17.3"
    Hard Drives
    Seagate Momentus XT 750GB
    Samsung SSD 32GB

theog

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znod

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  • OS
    Win7 Ult on DIY; Win8 Pro on MBP/Parallels; Win7 Ult on MBP/Boot Camp; Win7 Ult/Win8 Pro on HP
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    DIY Rig; MacBook Pro (MBP)/Parallels/Boot Camp; HP Pavilion dv6500t Laptop
    CPU
    Intel i7-2600K (sometimes OC'd to 4.8 GHz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS P8P67 Deluxe Rev B3
    Memory
    16 GB Corsair Vengeance
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA 570 SC
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Gateway
    Hard Drives
    Dual Boot:
    Win7 Ult RAID 0 on OCZ Revo x2 and
    Win7 Ult RAID 0 on Caviar Black SATA 3's
    PSU
    Cooler Master Silent Pro 1000W
    Case
    Cooler Master 932 HAF
    Cooling
    Zalman CNPS9900MAX-B CPU Fan
    Keyboard
    Logitech Cordless Desktop MX 5500
    Mouse
    Logitech Cordless Desktop MX 5500
    Internet Speed
    20 Mbps Download/2+ Mbps Upload
    Other Info
    Pioneer Blu-ray Burner/DVD Burner

TimmyG

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Recovery discs came and still would not complete the restore. I'm not sure what the issue is. Returning notebook and I'll likely pick up another.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8
    System Manufacturer/Model
    HP Envy dv7-7273ca
    CPU
    Intel i7 2.4ghz
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia GeForce GT 630M
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17.3"
    Hard Drives
    Seagate Momentus XT 750GB
    Samsung SSD 32GB

theog

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Are you booting the Recovery discs in uEFI mode?

Windows 8 Downgrade-006 SB for posting.PNG
 

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    Towers x 4

TimmyG

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I tried both UEFI and Legacy and still ran into problems. I have a replacement notebook now. I'd like to swap out the stock drive with the new Seagate. When I load TrueImage t clone the drives, the Seagate is not listed. It is currently formatted in GPT protective and I cannot do anything with it using Disk Management...
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8
    System Manufacturer/Model
    HP Envy dv7-7273ca
    CPU
    Intel i7 2.4ghz
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia GeForce GT 630M
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17.3"
    Hard Drives
    Seagate Momentus XT 750GB
    Samsung SSD 32GB

TimmyG

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thanks theog. tried paragon but ran into different sector size issue. installed momentus xt drive and tried clean install with usb 3 and secure boot disabled. i received the missing media driver message again...im now going to try usb install...
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8
    System Manufacturer/Model
    HP Envy dv7-7273ca
    CPU
    Intel i7 2.4ghz
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia GeForce GT 630M
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17.3"
    Hard Drives
    Seagate Momentus XT 750GB
    Samsung SSD 32GB

theog

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Recovery discs came and still would not complete the restore. I'm not sure what the issue is. Returning notebook and I'll likely pick up another.

thanks theog. tried paragon but ran into different sector size issue. installed momentus xt drive and tried clean install with usb 3 and secure boot disabled. i received the missing media driver message again...im now going to try usb install...

Check the hard drive with the manufacturer's diagnostic tools.

Hard Drive Diagnostics Tools and Utilities (Storage) - TACKtech Corp.
Hard Drive Diagnostic Procedure
 

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  • OS
    ME, XP,Vista,Win7,Win8,Win8.1
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    Other Info
    Notebooks x 3

    Desktops x 5

    Towers x 4

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